60 Years of challenge: Notes - Physical version of Gunwich? Let the ho say no!
 

Hi Guys,

These are notes, mostly for my benefit on 60 years Challenge. It's a seduction/escalation paradigm. Starting to do this in conjunction with Tims Floorless natural. It helps if you have woo (fun vibe), otherwise, this could be extemely creepy.

Now assume you're in state and spot a girl you like. You've handled the group ok, got your wings involved, you're good to go socially. But this is a seduction forum, so the next stage is the seduction phase. Here goes:

1) Move Close to her.
2) Eye contact. Face contact (screen her face). Don't stare her out, but hold her facial area.
3) Keep attentive expression but screening expression/frame. Your face is attentive but slightly sceptical
4) Talk about any shit below rapport/neutral rapport, except for your love of Hitler, or how you love to boil newborn babies in hot oil.
5) Talk slightly slower.
6) Use pauses, see if she can change the thread/invest in conversation. Listen. You get more of a seductive vibe in listening mode.
7) Take the hand, hold.
8) Caress the hand (escalation)
9) Arousal


If she avoids eye contact, or moves away, try again. Stay cool, keep your expressions cool (slight smile, like you would on a poker table). If she again moves back, say "nice to meet you", and move on. Don't waste your time with girls who are not into you. Throughout the interaction, you will get resistance. Try at least twice (maybe three) times. If she is into you, she should love the persistance and play along. If not, move on.

Here you're not trying to impress her with stories, jokes or being dancing monkey. All you are doing is creating a sexual vibe, giving yourself a chance to be yourself and a bit of a sexual threat. Will post more notes on this as I get it, then I will review this after testing this in field.

One last thing guys, I am NOT advocating or pushing this method, I just want to try it out. Kind of a physical version of Gunwich. Although not worth critisising it unless you actually try it. The beauty of this technique is that its very covert. The conversation sounds boring, but your tone, face contact and closeness plays a big part in the seduction.


The next post. More about getting physical, the it's on moment (IOM and creating arousal)

Welcome to my second post on 60 years Challenge.

Lets look at the first six points I made:

1) Move Close to her.
2) Eye contact. Face contact (screen her face). Don't stare her out, but hold her facial area.
3) Keep attentive expression but screening expression/frame. Your face is attentive but slightly sceptical
4) Talk about any shit below rapport/neutral rapport, except for your love of Hitler, or how you love to boil newborn babies in hot oil.
5) Talk slightly slower.
6) Use pauses, see if she can change the thread/invest in conversation. Listen. You get more of a seductive vibe in listening mode.

This creates a seductive vibe. You can tell she is into you by holding your gaze, staying close. Now we need to escalate.

Main focus of escalation is to create a you and her moment (kind of like Tims bubble of love but the physical version), and then sexual arousal.

Firstly Escalation needs to be Overt (obvious), Physical and mutual, to create an "its on moment" (IOM). Most guys go for the Kiss close. However, this can backfire in front of her friends or if you dont isolate. The main move to use here is hand caressing. When you're creating a sexual vibe by being close to her, hold eye/face contact and talking slowly, with pauses, if she stays and plays along, get her hand and start to caress it. If she caresses it back, this is the "its on moment". This is still a very under the radar thing (especially in larger set, or in a smaller emptier bar). You don't have to be seen to be trying to make out with every girl in site. This puts you and her on the same team. It shows you like each other.

Some schools of thought say "you need to touch her alot, to get her used to your touch" or "kino the shit out of her dude" Doing this one thing is a massive escalation and leads to being more sexual. I will cover arousal next :)

If she doesn't caress you hand back, this could be a bad sign. Keep the sexual vibe. You could then try to arouse her but this could be an uphill struggle.

When should you do this. If she stays in your zone when you are chatting to her etc, then do this in the first couple of minutes. Dont wait 10-15 minutes. Attraction in bigger earlier on. 10 minute pulls (I mean shagging) apparently is easier and more frequent then waiting.

Next, arousal..................

Sorry guys, this is even simpler than I thought.

The next thing after the hand caress can actually be as simple as "lets get out of here". At the point of hand caress, you can get more physical and forward. You can even go caveman. Going for the K-Close is easier. Any number you get is more solid. Do things like lead her around the club. Hooking any set would be easier apparantly. But we still need to make the sex offer. She has to know that it's on for tonight. Depending on the time, you could then take her by the hand and lead her out the club. If she won't go, it's not that she is not attracted to you, it could be other issues. If you make the sex offer earlier in the night, you have loads of time to deal with issues. She is already hooked to you quite strongly. It could lead to bathroom pulls and back alley sex.

The arousal stage basically is turning her on, but no need to explain it. He advises to go out without underwear and button jeans, so its easier to get your cock out! Get her to feel you up and pleasure you.

So to sum it up, there are three basic steps to seduction:

1) introduce to new ladies, be social
2) Get the sexual vibe up to the "its on moment"
3) The sex offer.

In between, use your social/gaming skills to sort out her friends, logistics etc

Now, let's see if this works ;) Will post my field reports then I will review this. Wish me luck!

On the money mate...

Also, this whole thing puts you in a SCREENING frame. You're checking her out. Even the expression on your face, sceptical, checking her out (again, mentioning Jaz seen him do it so many times)

I'm not saying yet this is the best method, give me a month or two to really assess it.

One last thing, the way you approach in this method has nothing to do with how good you can get her to fuck you. He basically says approaching sucks, but you have to do it, so might as well make things fun. Which is where RSD comes into it, getting into "state", lording the club and having fun with friends. However, when it's one on one with girl, with this method you smash it hard ;)

Good stuff.

Interesting...

Fun to try. Don't take it as gospel. You will start to find that the more you actively employ strategies in pick-up, the less success you will get. If you're constantly thinking what the best/next move is, with any interaction, this puts you at a disadvantage. My advice, check out Blueprint Decoded, then go out as much as possible.