Boot Camps
Hai all,
This refers to short (like 2-7 day) term intensive events where you're supposedly transformed in that period from a chump into someone who's got better skill with women. Are they worth bothering with? Skills are not something you can generally learn quickly; Martial arts for example requires years of training to get a (realistic) black belt for example. Boot camps to me, just strike me as a way of re-learning forgotten things or simply as a glorified holiday or experience. Z |
I think that most pua bootcamp are totally overpriced! Ma y of them cost over a thousand pounds for a two day course! That was why the Saturday Sarges in several cities across the world were started ten years ago.
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Hi,
I am far from being an expert, but I really think boot camp can point you in the right direction from the start. I have been reading "The Game" by Niel strauss and it has changed my life. I am keen on finding boot camp anywhere in Europe. Do you know any? |
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Having said that, I'm waiting for Sopot summit to return. It's cheap (was 100 euros in 2020 excluding accommodation), up to 7 days of seminars and some practical exercises, and of course lots of potential wingmen etc. It's more like a men's dating conference + academic event than pickup coaching, but hell it's an experience. I want it more as a glorified holiday than as coaching. |
I've given a recent response to this same question in a recent thread somewhere on here.
Basically, no. |
Total waste of money.
The idea of paying someone to make you do things that you would soon find you have the ability to do without paying someone to tell you to do them is silly at best. |
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It arguably depends on the coaches, and content. Sure you could probably learn these things on your own, but they do generally accelerate your progress somewhat. Unfortunately, many coaches out there just aren't that competent (or have high expectations for their clients; discarding social outcasts or hard cases, like James Tusk generally does). Z |
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Learning anything is an ongoing process. It's helpful to have experienced people to help you course correct, show you stuff and keep you on the right track, but you can't do that in a weekend. The boot camp model was designed as an efficient way to make money, not as a good way to teach pickup. Aside from that, I don't even think it's an apt analogy in the first place. Getting better at picking up girls isn't as much about learning information, skills and techniques as it is about getting intuitive experience at reading social cues and just.. not getting in your own way tbh. |
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I wonder about self-help celebrities like Tony Robbins and their actual usefulness in changing people's lives long term. Short term, no doubt, but after a week the novelty feeling wears off. |
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