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Dr_Zed 23-11-2020 09:37 PM

Tom Torero Love
 
Oh man, I couldn't resist but I saw the "Love Letters to Tom Torero" and laughed hard. Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afTVn0SgtgE

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Jeepster 24-11-2020 12:00 AM

LOL sounds like messages i got from my ex

Dr_Zed 24-11-2020 11:05 AM

You're lucky to only get them from an ex :P Though funnily enough it's mainly guys who are flaming by the looks of it.

stonecastle 17-05-2021 03:12 PM

By the way when I approached a woman in Piccadilly several years ago she to me: "Are you that Tom Torrero?" So he is quite widely known. Or at least he was several years ago. He also published a book called Daygame, about his techniques and success which included a hundred field reports!

Dr_Zed 18-05-2021 09:18 AM

You've been confused with Tom Torero?

stonecastle 20-05-2021 10:12 PM

Yes! But by a middle aged woman who was probably told about him by a friend or read about him in a magazine article. It was in Piccadilly which is in the area where Tom used to do day game.

Dr_Zed 21-05-2021 04:53 PM

So if you were confused with Tom Torero, what does that suggest about your game style ?

stonecastle 24-05-2021 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Zed (Post 131583)
So if you were confused with Tom Torero, what does that suggest about your game style ?

It probably meant my day game style was a carbon copy of Tom Toreros'. Back then I adopted his style of daygame opening from someone who had been on Tom's bootcamp. He told me exactly what he was taught by Tom Torero and I copied that style for several months. Then later copied Andy Yoshas' style which is the side approach where he points backwards as he opens. My original style was to approach standing or seated women with situational openers.

Dr_Zed 27-05-2021 03:08 PM

You know that Tom Torero has been called out for hiring an actress on at least one of his approach clips, right?

Not saying that his stuff doesn't work, but how has copying opening styles worked for you (noting that the opener is the easy part)?

stonecastle 28-05-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Zed (Post 131698)
You know that Tom Torero has been called out for hiring an actress on at least one of his approach clips, right? Not saying that his stuff doesn't work, but how has copying opening styles worked for you (noting that the opener is the easy part)?

Back in April 2013 after copying his opening style for several weeks I got an email close and a day two with a woman I stopped on Oxford Street. And we continued to message each other for a few days afterwards but she seemed to lose interest in me. But that could have been because I was still homeless at the time. But for over three years now I have had a job and a home. The other PUAs back then used to tell me to that I would have far more success if I got rehoused. But up until I was 30 years old I had a home but virtually no success with women.

guttergamebri 20-08-2021 01:20 PM

hiring the actress doesnt mean anything. (do you know the story as to why it happened ?)

but he is the best daygamer in the world by a clear mile... hes put out hundreds of advice videos , countless real approaches, half a dozen books with over 300 lay reports in them.. stealth attraction showing him fucking the girls... girlfriend sequence, date against the machine, the blueprint, the list is endless...
hes done some real dirty things, and dark stuff, he admits it. its what happens when you get caught up in it... its secret society, sometimes you'll get your hands dirty, the lifestyle is not for everyone...

kowalski 20-08-2021 03:25 PM

You are retarded.


Peace,

kowalski

dan300 20-08-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by guttergamebri (Post 133361)
..stealth attraction showing him fucking the girls..

Stealth perversion, you mean.

He should probably face quite serious criminal charges for filming girls against their knowledge or consent whilst engaged in sexual activity with him and then selling the content to desperate weirdos.

VibeSpreader 02-09-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by guttergamebri (Post 133361)
hiring the actress doesnt mean anything. (do you know the story as to why it happened ?)

but he is the best daygamer in the world by a clear mile... hes put out hundreds of advice videos , countless real approaches, half a dozen books with over 300 lay reports in them.. stealth attraction showing him fucking the girls... girlfriend sequence, date against the machine, the blueprint, the list is endless...
hes done some real dirty things, and dark stuff, he admits it. its what happens when you get caught up in it... its secret society, sometimes you'll get your hands dirty, the lifestyle is not for everyone...

Hiring an actress to lie about his secuding skills is massively misleading to his fans like yourself. The 'story' was "there was a lot of pressure in the community to film a kiss close". If he was actually the best daygamer in the world he could have just been able to film that IRL. Being the best daygamer and being the best coach are different things... He offers loads of good advice but-

More importantly any normal person would recognise that filming sex without consent is breaking the law and plain fucked, which you eloquently describe as 'not for everyone'. How would you feel if your sister or mum was one of those girls being filmed? I didn't know this before but thanks for putting it out there, you're basically the same as an open R Kelly fanboy, did he just get caught up in it too kmt.

guttergamebri 18-04-2022 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by VibeSpreader (Post 133638)
Hiring an actress to lie about his secuding skills is massively misleading to his fans like yourself. The 'story' was "there was a lot of pressure in the community to film a kiss close". If he was actually the best daygamer in the world he could have just been able to film that IRL. Being the best daygamer and being the best coach are different things... He offers loads of good advice but-

More importantly any normal person would recognise that filming sex without consent is breaking the law and plain fucked, which you eloquently describe as 'not for everyone'. How would you feel if your sister or mum was one of those girls being filmed? I didn't know this before but thanks for putting it out there, you're basically the same as an open R Kelly fanboy, did he just get caught up in it too kmt.



no... at the time he filmed it, he wasn't the best in the world, he was new and was starting out... its not easy to just simply get a kiss close, so no, he couldn't "just be able to film it IRL" people who are the best in the world still fail... the best footballer in the world doesn't always score, the best athlete in the world doesn't always win. thats not how it works... but like many greats, they learn and move on and become better, he became better because of his mistakes, he grew as a person whilst all everyone else just dwells on that one mistake... those people are the ones who get left behind, it's them people that don't learn and move on, they go on forums like this with their bitter mindsets banging on and on about it and not growing themselves... he was the best in the world and he was the best at teaching it, he also released the most products. these are the facts, you think you know someone better? name them.. I'll wait.


also about the filming of sex, seriously get over yourself, do you live in a bubble or something? far more serious crimes being committed in the world mate, but yet because he recorded an AUDIO of him having sex, shock horror , oh no... seriously get a life...and no recording audio is not against the law...

dan300 18-04-2022 08:05 AM

Doesn't matter much anymore, because he's dead innit.

Dr_Zed 20-04-2022 06:04 PM

So then - what qualifies one as being the best daygamer out there, and how would one prove it?

smoke rise 04-05-2022 04:58 AM

I didn't shed any more of a tear for him than I would for a cockroach. For one, he was a fucking fraud punk, just like all "PUAs". Secondly I don't take kindly to stinking limeys (or anyone else for that matter) soiling decent Aryan countries by engaging in sex tourism. But I did read where he got smacked up by some goon in Russia. Served him right. May he rest in piss and shit.

Dr_Zed 19-05-2022 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smoke rise (Post 139097)
For one, he was a fucking fraud punk, just like all "PUAs".

Please elaborate

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Jaz 23-05-2022 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoke rise (Post 139097)
I didn't shed any more of a tear for him than I would for a cockroach. For one, he was a fucking fraud punk, just like all "PUAs". Secondly I don't take kindly to stinking limeys (or anyone else for that matter) soiling decent Aryan countries by engaging in sex tourism. But I did read where he got smacked up by some goon in Russia. Served him right. May he rest in piss and shit.

Found the Incel.

guttergamebri 02-10-2022 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoke rise (Post 139097)
I didn't shed any more of a tear for him than I would for a cockroach. For one, he was a fucking fraud punk, just like all "PUAs". Secondly I don't take kindly to stinking limeys (or anyone else for that matter) soiling decent Aryan countries by engaging in sex tourism. But I did read where he got smacked up by some goon in Russia. Served him right. May he rest in piss and shit.

lol someone else who doesn't have clear facts on anything...

firstly that "goon from Russia " wasn't actually from Russia, it happened in Minsk, and secondly he wasn't "some goon" it was Richard gambler that did it...

this is the trouble with pua haters, they don't have the facts, they just base their hate on bits of things they've heard, little bits here, little bits there. you don't know shit... and you don't know daygame or tom, and you never will...


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