Strong anti-PUA sentiment from friends
 

Have any of you found that if you try to discuss pick-up with a group of friends, they gang together to be extremely anti-PUA, regardless of what you say to explain what you mean?

Not a single one of my friends is prepared to entertain the notion that a man attempting to overcome shyness to create attraction with women is acceptable behaviour. Apparently it's just harassing women.

I find this pretty demoralising. How do you guys deal with this?

If you talk about pick up then yes people will find it weird.

If you go out and chat to girls then your mates think your cool and fuck. Pick up us weird and secretive, being a lad who chats up birds is socially high value.

Anything that is unconventional that they don't understand seems weird and scary to people. Learning about psychology, an actual science about the way the mind works, not even pua related is enough to turn people against you or think you are weird. Most people just want to fit in and be normal, this is a strong psychological motivation.

Started investing in Bitcoin and other digital currencies and when ever I talk about it with someone they often give me a weird look and even laugh at me for it, despite making 10 times profit in the last 6months.

Ok I'm sick of seeing this Bitcoin shit everywhere now.

What the fuck is it and how the fuck does it work?

lol. They're digital currencies/assets which were created as a way of paying people who mined with their computers.

You can mine for them. Buy them with an online wallet like blockchain.info or short sell them with a trading site like trading212. Basically 6 months ago a bitcoin was around $2000 per token, now its $15000 - 19000 per token and expected to increase.

Bitcoin is only one of many out there now, Etherium has doubled in price in a month.

What exactly does mine for them mean? That doesn't make clear what actually happens or what actions are needed.

Just sounds like a pile of steaming hot turd. Are you telling me you just buy a bunch of this online currency, and it somehow increases over time? So where the fuck does this extra money come out of?

Jordan Belfort said in a live TV interview last week that it's a scam.

Wait... A known and convicted scam artist is where you are getting your information, Dan? Good one, Muppet.

How it works...
There's a mathematical problem. People use computers to try to solve that mathematical problem. Computer X solves the problem and receives a small amount of digital currency for winning given that computers that account for more than half the processing power of all computers trying to solve the problem agree that computer X has solved the problem. When the problem is solved new entries in the digital currency ledger are created. The agreement of what is the correct answer to the problem is also the agreement of what transactions took place on those ledger entries.

This process means that the system has trust built in and does not require a central point of trust that can be corrupted. This process creates an inherent value to the currency that relates the cost of this mining to the reward for mining. The reward exceeds the cost or the mining is without reward. It's basic economics.

This solves the major problem of banking and other similar systems that by their design create niches of power that can be exploited by corrupt individuals.

Currency is just the beginning. The blockchain is really a new internet being born. Currency is just it's first implementation. Next we are going to see a whole bunch of other industries disturbed by this technology. Things like Airbnb and Uber are a halfway house between game a and game b.

It hasn't really got anything to do with trading for profit. That's just a byproduct of its volatility as a new disruptive entity in an old stabilised system.


Peace,

kowalski

My thinking was, the fact that he IS a convicted scam artist, would make his word hold substance on this particular topic.

He doesn't appear to have anything to lose or gain by saying it is or it isn't, so what's the point in him saying it at all?

Good explanation though. The first read through went over my head. The second, made more sense.

What? Don't be silly.

If you want to know more about it, listen to the Rogan episodes with that Greek kid antonionio andopaloopdaloopo. He breaks it down real well.


Peace,

kowalski

Belfort doesn't understand the technology behind this. Just like company shares they go up and down in value, buy low or as low as you can and sell for a higher price.

Truth is nobody knows just how this will end, you either take a risk or you don't, so far I'm making money.

Hang out with people you share the same values. They probably don't get laid or are pussies.

Play the game don't tell the game, stoop seeking for permission.

Because sometimes it's just harassing women. Lol.

This is like learning how to drive, there are really good drivers that learn really well and follow instructions and concepts very well and there are others that drive like Charlie sheen after a wedding from the first day.

Like learning how to drive. It can be very good for you and change your life opportunities forever. But if also can take you to jail or even kill you.

That's on you.

I have several mates I see regually all I have known for many years, 1 i go out Sarging with most of the time, which was funny as we both didnt realise we practised PU, it was only when I mentioned something PUA related it came to light and he knew exactly what I ment, we now wing each other when necessary.

Other mates havent a fucking clue and can be a hindrance.

1 mate thinks you can only get women if your good looking and have plenty of money, He has money because he is a tight cunt and will ride his push bike to the pub unless he gets a lift. Hmm maybe there's your problem, your image, shorts an T shirt on a night out ffs.

Another mate even more clueless very little experience with women or social interactions.

Have tried to explain the fundimentals but it goes over their heads that if im talking to a woman I dont need you coming over and butting in especially the clueless mate, he will say negative comments about us thinking its a joke, so we tend to not go out much with them too much. But this game being what it is you dont switch it off if an opportunity arises.

They all laugh at us non of them will make an effort to go and talk to a bird but straight over when we do, esp if its a large set of women. Fucks me off the times ive told them to go and find their own, stop hovering and come over when I invite you over to join me, my other mate tells them the same.

By the same analogy, getting the right coach/wing/mentor is also pretty important to avoid troubles.

Learning to drive just teaches you how to pass a driving test, the real learning comes after.

PU is no different, you can learn the basics from books video's etc. Getting out there practising and learn by your mistakes.

That's assuming you know what your mistakes actually are. I failed 4 driving tests before I got lessons from a qualified teacher, then I passed afterwards. I see pickup in a similar fashion.

Ive never had any PU instructing tbh, this PUA stuff wasnt about when I was younger, it was hit and miss and the only advice I ever got was from my Dad and all he said was.

"Never give a woman what she wants in 1 lump sum, give it to her in snippets a bit at a time, just enough to keep her interested and wanting more. But no matter what you do, if a woman doesnt like you, there is fuck all you can do about it"

That was it, how the fuck do I go about that? I thought. So it was trial and error until I realised what worked and what did not. And what worked on 1 didnt always work on another, so I put it down to

"If a woman doesnt like you there is fuck all you can do about it" So I would give it up.

It took a while to learn that wasnt always the case, it was just some birds respond differently and different tactics needed, which I didnt have I thought they all worked in the same way, probably so many missed opportunities.

The younger Guys have so much more of an advantage with the wealth of infomation out there, wish it had been there when I started out.









(Mum divorced him)

Yes and no. There're several bad coaches out there (like Sasha Daygame), so as a beginner you have to choose wisely, young or not.

Tho I see good value in coaching, especially if you're socially maladjusted (e.g. have severe anxiety problems or underlying traumas which automatically mess up your calibration regardless of technique).

There probably is bad coaches, my argument is there were no coaches good or bad when I was younger. Had to teach ourselves. Now there are coaches, books, youtube all there to help. I'm not trying to make out im some sort of hero, I just wish it was there when I needed it. Would of saved me a lot of misery.

Agreed. A good coach is great, especially for someone who's been stuck getting no results for months/years on end.

The same thing happened to me when I posted on a couple of dating websites about pick up! I would have thought that people on an internet dating website would be more open to ideas about how to pick up women in real life!