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daleinthedark 01-08-2017 10:57 PM

Lying about filming
 
I came across this video the other day and even when caught out and directly asked about filming by girls and security, the guy denies it

I find it both creepy and dishonest


dan300 02-08-2017 08:04 PM

Recording people against their will is creepy full stop.

Yes, you're legally allowed to record in a public place. But this singling out of females and filming without consent is something I've disagreed with for a number of years now.

Catboy 16-01-2020 09:49 PM

This account was closed on YouTube

1st Person Approacher 17-01-2020 03:12 PM

Recording in public is 100% legal, you don't need the consent of the individual, despite what idiots like "catboy" think. What about CCTV? Cameras in ATMs? Recording a crowded street with all sorts of people walking by? Unless you are creeping on someone in a private place, there is nothing wrong with it. It's for educational purposes and to document your candid real life experiences.

I've had way better feedback on what I've been doing wrong on one video rather than I would have typing up paragraphs and paragraphs of field reports.

dan300 17-01-2020 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st Person Approacher (Post 126510)
Recording in public is 100% legal, you don't need the consent of the individual, despite what idiots like "catboy" think. What about CCTV? Cameras in ATMs? Recording a crowded street with all sorts of people walking by? Unless you are creeping on someone in a private place, there is nothing wrong with it. It's for educational purposes and to document your candid real life experiences.

I've had way better feedback on what I've been doing wrong on one video rather than I would have typing up paragraphs and paragraphs of field reports.

No-one has said it's against the law to record in a public place why do you feel the need to keep repeating things we already know.

The point you're not getting is that you're filming individual girls that you've singled out, then putting it on the internet without their knowledge. Most of us who have a conscience know and agree that this is weird and wrong. Some cunts even go full stalker and get fucking spy cam sunglasses and shit like that. At least your camera is visible I guess. Still weird to do though.

Don't bother repeating about the CCTV and all that shit again.

Catboy 17-01-2020 07:05 PM

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Recording in public is 100% legal, you don't need the consent of the individual, despite what idiots like "catboy" think.
How can you say that when police already told you to stop doing it (you said that yourself in one of your posts)?

What you have to do is getting a job.

1st Person Approacher 17-01-2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Catboy (Post 126516)
How can you say that when police already told you to stop doing it (you said that yourself in one of your posts)?

What you have to do is getting a job.

You keep ignoring my PMs where I offer you out in person, yet reply to my posts on my threads.

Recording in public is 100% LEGAL. The cop did not say otherwise. I politely left due to his civil manner, however I have not broken the law. Get that through your stupid ITALIAN head.

As for getting a job, obviously I'm trying to do that, but it's a long, long process once you are long term unemployed.

Now stop replying to my posts in threads, if you've got an issue with me, take it up man to man, via PMs.

1st Person Approacher 17-01-2020 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 126513)
No-one has said it's against the law to record in a public place why do you feel the need to keep repeating things we already know.

The point you're not getting is that you're filming individual girls that you've singled out, then putting it on the internet without their knowledge. Most of us who have a conscience know and agree that this is weird and wrong. Some cunts even go full stalker and get fucking spy cam sunglasses and shit like that. At least your camera is visible I guess. Still weird to do though.

Don't bother repeating about the CCTV and all that shit again.

It's the "catboy" guy mainly. As for recording being "morally wrong" I think infields for educational purposes aren't morally wrong, as long as they are helping people.

It's not as though I'm getting rich from it.

kowalski 17-01-2020 07:16 PM

I already know about that. You are fully unhinged. Please seek professional help.

Admin aren't around every day but as you are threatening people in PMs... when one of them pops up...

I wouldn't reply either if you PMd me. The only surprising thing is that Catboy hasn't copy pasted those threats publicly for us all to dig into you off the cringe.


Peace,

kowalski

1st Person Approacher 17-01-2020 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 126519)
I already know about that. You are fully unhinged. Please seek professional help.

Admin aren't around every day but as you are threatening people in PMs... when one of them pops up...

I wouldn't reply either if you PMd me. The only surprising thing is that Catboy hasn't copy pasted those threats publicly for us all to dig into you off the cringe.


Peace,

kowalski

"Dig into me" all you want, I could care less. You will note that Catboy's tone is provocative. I know for a fact that coward wouldn't act like that in person-I'd smash him.

Stein 17-01-2020 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st Person Approacher (Post 126518)
I think infields for educational purposes aren't morally wrong, as long as they are helping people.

Well, no but even if they were, I think we're concerned about the women here. Apparently that didn't occur to you. Imagine my shock.

Honestly, if you had any actual interest in improving you would have just taken this on board and started looking into the massive number of other things you need to work on. This is literally the silliest hill to die on you could pick.

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Originally Posted by 1st Person Approacher (Post 126518)
I know for a fact that coward wouldn't act like that in person-I'd smash him.


This is a very bad look for you. If you PM people who are negative toward you threatening them I'm not surprised you've been banned from other forums. The best thing you can do is drop this, thicken your skin a little, and try to take the criticism you've had on board in a more constructive way.

Oh, and Catboy, if you do fight him - aim for the GoPro

Edit: Due to some shit that just came to my attention, I've messaged an admin about you

1st Person Approacher 17-01-2020 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stein (Post 126523)
Well, no but even if they were, I think we're concerned about the women here. Apparently that didn't occur to you. Imagine my shock.

Honestly, if you had any actual interest in improving you would have just taken this on board and started looking into the massive number of other things you need to work on. This is literally the silliest hill to die on you could pick.




This is a very bad look for you. If you PM people who are negative toward you threatening them I'm not surprised you've been banned from other forums. The best thing you can do is drop this, thicken your skin a little, and try to take the criticism you've had on board in a more constructive way.

Oh, and Catboy, if you do fight him - aim for the GoPro

Edit: Due to some shit that just came to my attention, I've messaged an admin about you

The Catboy guy is a douche. He deserves it. I accept that you three regulars are somewhat douchey, you've been here a long time.

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Edit: Due to some shit that just came to my attention, I've messaged an admin about you
Not sure what you are referring to. You already know about the beef between me a catboy.

The guy comes on this forum as a newbie and starts throwing his weight around at another guy? He is complicating things for me and making me lash out at him and that's his strategy.

Making me lash out at him makes me look bad to you three. I honestly don't know why he registered just after me.

He's a coward, engages in an open forum but won't engage man to man because he doesn't have backup.

kowalski 17-01-2020 08:43 PM

It’s gonna be super difficult for you to get laid while you are being such a pathetic little bitch though. Except with very damaged girls. You should either work out how to spot and identify damaged chicks to groom or fix yourself.

And, it’s going to be impossible for you to be in a non-abusive relationship with that attitude.

Maybe that’s your path.


Peace,

kowalski

1st Person Approacher 17-01-2020 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 126527)
It’s gonna be super difficult for you to get laid while you are being such a pathetic little bitch though. Except with very damaged girls. You should either work out how to spot and identify damaged chicks to groom or fix yourself.

And, it’s going to be impossible for you to be in a non-abusive relationship with that attitude.

Maybe that’s your path.


Peace,

kowalski

I'm not a "pathetic little bitch", why are you coming at me!? Why aren't you going for Catboy? Are you trying to provoke me into smashing you and then getting banned?

Why do you hate me and not Catboy!? I could smash everyone on this forum IRL, but I don't care about that, I am extending you olive branches. All except for catboy. I am wondering if he is one of you is another account, trolling me?

Stein 17-01-2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st Person Approacher (Post 126525)
The guy comes on this forum as a newbie and starts throwing his weight around at another guy? He is complicating things for me and making me lash out at him and that's his strategy.

Making me lash out at him makes me look bad to you three. I honestly don't know why he registered just after me.

He's a coward, engages in an open forum but won't engage man to man because he doesn't have backup.

He isn't making you do anything. You chose to go threaten him privately. No one made you do that.

Sorry dude, but you don't need other people's help to look bad. Catboy or you reactions to him hadn't even come into it in my mind.

In my opinion, the cowardly thing to do is instead of trying to deal with him publicly through words like a civilized person you threatened him with violence a few days ago where no one else could see.

Honestly man, I think you have problems beyond any help you'll get from here. You got some issues Stan, I think you need some counseling.

Oh, and
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I could smash everyone on this forum IRL, but I don't care about that
lol.

Catboy 17-01-2020 09:37 PM

This guy is a threat, I think I should at this moment to warn people about him.
Those are his last two messages.

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I see you are still ignoring my messages you cowardly little bitch. Do you want me to come to London so that we can settle this in person?

I'll fucking rip your throat out you c u n t

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I'll knock you to the floor and then STAMP on your HEAD until you are DEAD. You C U N T


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Please have this in consideration before having any contact with this guy

He's just not treated yet by an specialist.
And he doesn't have a job.

FUC

Stein 17-01-2020 09:45 PM

So..1st Person Approacher...

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1st Person Approacher 17-01-2020 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stein (Post 126532)

I don't even know why you three are siding with catboy and not me? What have I done against you? And then you wonder why I retaliate...?

What's so good about catboy?

kowalski 17-01-2020 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st Person Approacher (Post 126529)
Are you trying to provoke me into smashing you...

Yeah. Book the flight.


Peace,

kowalski

Stein 17-01-2020 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st Person Approacher (Post 126533)
I don't even know why you three are siding with catboy and not me? What have I done against you? And then you wonder why I retaliate...?

What's so good about catboy?

You threatened to come to the city he lives in and stomp on the guy's head until he was dead. That's what you did.

I don't know Catboy that well, but he didn't do that shit for one thing.

1st Person Approacher 17-01-2020 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stein (Post 126535)
You threatened to come to the city he lives in and stomp on the guy's head until he was dead. That's what you did.

I don't know Catboy that well, but he didn't do that shit for one thing.

Only after he kept provoking me for absolutely no reason at all. He didn't take it up man to man, only on an open forum. He ignored repeated requests to engage with me via PM, until he provoked me until I could take no more.

He's a sly piece of shit.

Yet you three are siding with him over me!?

Stein 17-01-2020 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st Person Approacher (Post 126536)
Only after he kept provoking me for absolutely no reason at all. He didn't take it up man to man, only on an open forum. He ignored repeated requests to engage with me via PM, until he provoked me until I could take no more.

From what I saw he mostly gave you shit about filming people. We all did because it's creepy.

Then talk to him publicly. The fuck are you pming him for in the first place. For one thing, not everyone checks their pms all the time, I go days without checking mine. SO if you message me and I don't message your dumb ass back you're going to send me death threats huh?


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Yet you three are siding with him over me!?
Yes. I don't know you from Adam dude. All I've seen from you is incel tendencies, an approach video that looks like a serial killer made it, complete stubbornness to take advice on board, and now, death threats. People on this forum give each other shit, but no one should be physically threatening people on here. Fuck yourself, man.

For real, I hope you get the help you need from whatever channels that comes through but it's not here. The fact that you're literally too pig-headed and lacking in social awareness to see you're in the wrong here doesn't fill me with hope though.

Done talking to you man. Bring on the ban hammer.

dan300 18-01-2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st Person Approacher (Post 126536)
Yet you three are siding with him over me!?

No-one has sided with anyone. You're saying that because you perceive our critique of the way you do things the way you want to perceive it - that we're all ganging up on you.

Your insistence on ignoring us though is the problem.

You need to learn how to take criticism on board and use it to your advantage.

Example: "Dan, you need to stop jumping out of the bushes whilst a girl is walking down a dark alleyway on her own at night"

Me - "You know what, I appreciate that you may be on to something there. I guess I'm willing to try jumping out during the daytime instead"

Stupid example but you get the idea.

stonecastle 03-06-2021 10:49 AM

I thought that this thread was going to be about a guy lying to women that he was filming a documentary about pick up artists as a technique to get off with women. I read about a similar technique which was suggested where you are supposed to go up to a woman and tell her that you are writing a book on pick up and you want to get her advice for your book!


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