The Secret
 

Hi All,

I'm just starting reading a Book called the Secret and its really good. I've watched the DVD about three times now and it's all about cutting out what you dont want in your life and concentrating on what you do want in your life.

As a visualisation thing they recommend watching this at the start of every day and it certainly does make you feel amazing. This is my gift to you guys.

The Secret to You ::: Visualization Tool ::: Official Web Site of The Secret Movie

Retro

I agree jaz. I read the book. Positive thinking, focusing on your goals and never giving up until you hit them DOES work. But not cos the 'universe magically delivers stuff'.

I think it's based on bullshit, but will work for different reasons. Being focused and driven leads to success.

A girl passed this book on to me. worth reading?!?!



sinstyle.

YES read it!

Only if she's hot ;)

Tom you see humour in eveything, awesome.... lol


sinstyle.

That's because i'm so immature :)

Do you know style's pen 15 club?! this is very immature!! also very funny.........

sinstyle.

If the music over the vid wasn't so cheesy it would work a lot better.

Meh. If the video didn't come across as trying to offend my intelligence I may have read the book but I don't think I really want to after sitting thru that bull shit. Anyway I really dissagree with paying for it and if you really want to see what its about then look here MEGAVIDEO - I'm watching it I don't promote piracy because its a crime but them making you pay for that stuff is as much of a crime to me.

Has some slightly good concept to it but it can be summed up by think positive and you will get what you want in life. eventually (not the way the movie shows it where you think about a bike then wow you have a bike lmao).

Its certainly not the magic pill it claims to be but has a good motive.

Much Love
.db x.

I believe there is something too this, the secret is kinda glamourized so it will sell a lot of copys but if anyone is interested in this stuff just look into noetic science its pretty much the next step on from quantum physics and trys to prove or disprove any theories relating to the mind and its affect on ones surroundings :)

Very bold claims, noetic science doesn't seem very scientific to me more like “New Age” repackaged.
Quantum physics has tangible results I don't see much peer review or scientific method in noetic science.

i have 100 percent belief in the secret and what it teaches
they teach the exact same concept as almost all religions
which is ask and you will recieve
the secret is just a unglamorfied version of alot of other religious teaching which have often been misinterpreted by the metaphors that blanket them

just like flicksters quote
“The mind is everything. What you think you become.”-Buddha

Every one has a valid point on this, this is uncharted territory (at least in our age) and unless we explore new seas we will not find new lands.
Im quite a spiritual person incase you haven't allready guessed lol

peace :)

Thats another valid point as in you have a point of view that just like many sciences and theorys can neither fully disprove or fully prove that this stuff is real, it is simply another point of veiw from your own perception....it's up to the person who has that veiw to choose if it is valid or not it's also up to the reader of that veiw to choose likewise, I choose to see it as valid as in opposing theories just like apposing forces can work in a common denominator just like matter and antimatter, born from the same energy source but behave in different patterns from oneanother but can not exsist alone.


everything is valid

If everything is valid then all debate, advice, logic, reason ends. You need some kind of structure to explain things (provided by the scientific method) or me saying "apple monkey banana jizz bitch" is a valid response to your post or me just mashing on a keyboard is too.

Granted it's up to the individual to choose a point of view but it doesn't mean I have to agree and accept it.

I can't see how they work together at all. With our current understanding of science they don't fit together, you may say "ah but that's our current understanding!" but noetics hasn't proved anything there are no tangible results it's just a random theory with as much validity as any other random unprovable theory in the world like scientology or david icke's lizard men.

Science can exist with out noetics so I don't see how your antimatter analogy works, people didn't discover noetics and come to the conclusion that this explains how science works. Science is a method, a way of thought and reason, it doesn't need a positron from noetics to exist it is not a physical entity.

You should have a look at James Randi Educational Foundation
he offers a million dollar prize to people to prove psychics, paranormal activity etc but no-ones claimed it.

You might wonder why i'm against spirituality and new age concepts, well first I don't think the core beliefs are true (some of the teachings are though) I think this kind of thing can be pretty dangerous in certain circumstances, for example homeopathic treatments for Aids and malaria.
Doctors condemn homeopathic treatments for Aids and malaria - Times Online

Oh and :D YouTube - The Chaser's War on Everything - The Secret

Ok ok ive been educated i dont know what valid meens lol

But still i choose to believe in the advances of Spirrituality and Science combined

and my anti matter remark was not a conclusion it was an example that opposites can exist in the same universe, ok I know antimatter reacts negatively with matter so not the best of examples but still I hope you get my point..


like i said peace :)

you are your only problem and yourself is the only answer

Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day.

I know..science and spirrituality will allways be opposites but still they coexist they don't compliment each other they may not even be friends they certainly dont work with one another but they do exist in the same universe thats all i meant....opposites can coexsist :)

Just believe enough and the universe will give you his bike

I came across this not so long ago am thinking about 3 weeks and since then i've used the stuff they tort and it's worked for me, it may be my mind relating everything that goes my way to the idea of the secret and all that does not work as me not really focusing on the idea to put it into action therefore the result not being what it is...

... at the moment i do think it works am saying this because there are a few things that have pushed me back towards the idea when thinking does it or does it not work ...

Yes there is a lot of crud in there... but there are a couple of really good take aways from it that i found, hence the initial post.

1) i am greatful to be me!

.... an obvious one, but for 30 years of my life this wasn't the case and a couple of serious drunken considerations at suicide is testiment to that.

2) focus on the positive things in life rather than the negatives, even almost discount them from your reality.

... again, going though the last 30 years with the voices in my head saying "your usless", "your ugly", "your shit with women", "people are always making fun of you" etc etc rather than actually look at what i've acheived and the contridictions to those message.

There are a couple of other, but its the same with anything, you take away small piece of everything you read / watch / listen to which impact you the most and discount the rest.

Peace

Retro

Haha! Wasn't expecting that!

Great message, And if it works for you to believe it, then believe it, its no more crazy than Christianity or RSD

If hes happy he can ignore what everyone else thinks. Its like a guy wearing a stupid hat that he really likes, he likes it so it doesn't matter if the hat is stupid or not.

http://balanceinmotion.net/background/tng-hats1.jpg

The secret bears all of the hallmarks of classic 'brainwashing' bullshit, much like most religious bullshit: it carries the necessity that you believe it for it to work. If you don't believe in the fairy, then it can't exist. This proves as a great defence against scientific analysis: it failed for you 'cos you didn't believe in it!

There are two reasons for this books success:

1. Calling a product 'the secret', which will make all your dreams come true, but you just have to buy and read it first, is a merketing success. Human curiosity and the endless search for the 'magic bullet' to cure all our problems will sell a product in the millions.

2. Believing, and having faith in the book will actually cause significant improvement in your life, and you probably will experience success. Focusing on your goals, dismissing negativity, and basing each decision you make on how it will help you reach your goals will work. In fact, over the last few years I have done just this and I've been hugely successful in my career. The fact that the book say's this is the universe is almost irrelevant. The only relevant point is that you believe it.

Vin Vs The Secret?
 

See I don't believe this for a minute man, but we both know that a belief such as " I can have anything I want i in life if I focus on it" is truly great regardless of the pseudo-spirituality!!! Whether they believe Santa Clause is making their focus a Reality or pixies from beyond Neptune are taking care of their every need doesn't really matter. Its the belief that matters!

Personally I think this is a pseudo-spiritual take on Attraction Code type material (not purposely of course)!!

Have a string intent and focus on what you wish to happen !!!!!, and it will come to you

The whole law of attraction thing comes from a nineteenth century healing technique and is a reaction to Calvinism and "The secret" is basically other peoples ideas repackaged and made popular by business and now Oprah.

sociologist Micki McGee writes
"continuous and never-ending work on the self is offered not only as a road to success but also to a kind of secular salvation." The self becomes an antagonist with which one wrestles endlessly the Calvinist attacking it for sinful inclinations, the positive thinker for "negativity.'"

It can make people feel guilty for their lack of positivity or shift blame from the real underlying reasons.

Take the credit crunch and the sub prime morgages. Do you think that if business taught to invest within there means instead of that one only has to think a thing or desire it to make it happen we'd be in all this financial mess?

There's a book about positive thinking it by Barbara Ehrenreich Called "Smile or Die: How Positive Thinking Fooled America and the World"

But! She does... "not write in a spirit of sourness or personal disappointment, nor do I have any romantic attachment to suffering as a source of insight or virtue. On the contrary, I would like to see more smiles, more laughter, more hugs, more happiness… and the first step is to recover from the mass delusion that is positive thinking".

I'm not saying be a miserable bastard but have some realism otherwise you're just lying to yourself instead of dealing with your problems. You need to be able to identify problems with yourself so you can grow and take right action to address these problems but just wishing for stuff won't make it a reality.

Here's an interview with Barbara Ehrenreich that lays down her argument quite nicely

http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/...e_bright_side/

anyone who thinks this is good is a fag

It didn't make me feel motivated I skipped through it once I got half way got kind of boring.

It reminds me of those mr money motivation tapes on king of the hill