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Default 17-05-2011, 09:01 AM

True man, I've learnt a lot from this mess up! Cheers for the help and advice I will definitely bare this in mind next time an hb says to me she has a boyfriend!
I've spoken to "Megan" today and she still wants to be friends as we got on so well......Is this still possible?

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Default 17-05-2011, 10:10 AM

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True man, I've learnt a lot from this mess up! Cheers for the help and advice I will definitely bare this in mind next time an hb says to me she has a boyfriend!
I've spoken to "Megan" today and she still wants to be friends as we got on so well......Is this still possible?

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Anything is possible But do you want to be her friend, or do you want to fuck her, or both?
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Default 17-05-2011, 11:36 AM

I would like to still be friends with her, and yeh I do want to fuck her, but I'm not going to. I think it would be wrong to lead her along like that.
Hoefully we can still get along just like before all the drama kicked off I just wasn't sure if I was naive by thinking that we could still be friends like that.

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Default 17-05-2011, 12:36 PM

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A peado never did anything wrong to me but I still have no time for her.
If I slept with a girl with a boyfriend and she didn't tell me she would have wronged me.
She sacrificed her moral right to fairness in this situation already.


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you have a good point and I would struggle not to beat the living daylights out of someone for engaging in paedophilia.

I definitely think it's not fair to cheat on someone if you're in a relationship that's why peeps have fuck buddy's.


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Default 17-05-2011, 03:57 PM

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I'm starting to think if not me it would be someone else!
This is just rationalisation of cognitive dissonance. You know you did something wrong but rather than accept how wrong it truly is you would rather play it down and or rationalise it as something ok.

Be a man and accept your wrong, learn from it, and don't do it again. Rationalising by saying "It would have been someone else anyway" doesn't make what you've done any less immoral in respect to the poor bloke that you've caused emotional hurt to as a direct result of your actions. Saying that he would have had that trauma from someone else anyway doesn't make it ok.

There are better examples but I'm drawing a blank right now. Imagine that you just saw someone's car keys left in the door of their car in a bad neighbourhood. Does stealing that car on the premise of "someone else would have stolen it anyway" make it any less of an immoral act?
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This is just rationalisation of cognitive dissonance. You know you did something wrong but rather than accept how wrong it truly is you would rather play it down and or rationalise it as something ok.

Be a man and accept your wrong, learn from it, and don't do it again. Rationalising by saying "It would have been someone else anyway" doesn't make what you've done any less immoral in respect to the poor bloke that you've caused emotional hurt to as a direct result of your actions. Saying that he would have had that trauma from someone else anyway doesn't make it ok.

There are better examples but I'm drawing a blank right now. Imagine that you just saw someone's car keys left in the door of their car in a bad neighbourhood. Does stealing that car on the premise of "someone else would have stolen it anyway" make it any less of an immoral act?
Or running over someone in your car because they were in the road, someone else would have done it anyways
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Default 17-05-2011, 04:14 PM

Ha ha like the last example!

And yeh I do accept the fact I made a big mistake, and I feel awful for it!
I have a date with "Jess" tomorrow and "Megan" has agreed to keep a friendship between us. I have told her not to wait for me as I dont want to drag her along, but she has insisted on waiting until thursday to hear how wednesday goes and my final decision.

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Default 17-05-2011, 07:47 PM

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A fun example we played with in philosophy about responsibility ...

You shoot someone.
You shoot someone but someone shoots them just after.
You shoot someone but someone closer shoots them just after and their bullet goes through the target's heart first.
You shoot someone but someone closer shoots them just after and their bullet goes through the target's heart and even knocks your bullet off course so you 'miss'.
Indeed, addition of "but..." doesn't change the first part. It's still the same thing. The only difference being the final one in which you didn't actually shoot someone, the intent however was still there and therefore it still remains the same.
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Default 17-05-2011, 08:16 PM

I guess the message is that you still took the shot. Therefore you still had the intention (mens rea(If anyone studied law)).

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Default 17-05-2011, 09:30 PM

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A fun example we played with in philosophy about responsibility ...

You shoot someone.
You shoot someone but someone shoots them just after.
You shoot someone but someone closer shoots them just after and their bullet goes through the target's heart first.
You shoot someone but someone closer shoots them just after and their bullet goes through the target's heart and even knocks your bullet off course so you 'miss'.


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Hahaha - when I was at law school it was shooting at one person out of a window and hitting someone else by mistake. That person then turns out to be (i) commiting suicide at the time or (ii) planning a mass murder etc. etc.
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