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piers147 12-04-2011 10:06 AM

The Queens Gambit!
 
Iv'e been reflecting about Pua and thinking that it's very simalar to playing my favorite game chess!.As with chess and women the opening move's are vital if you swrew up your pieces become blocked and in-active as mobility of your troop's is key to success.

Once you have central control of the board then the game begins as you must out wit the opponent waiting to fork him or use the pit or any other manevoure that will confuse and entrap the price!

As the opener is key and mid-game and end iv'e just read a excellent book called the queens gambit about a girl thats a orphan and meets the janiter who reluctantly teaches her chess he soons discovers thats she is a genious and beats him relatively easily after a few weeks even though he's a good player.

The home feed the kids sleeping pills to keep them quite she becomes hooked and eventually she gets a foster mother and she and the new mum travel the country and plays chess up and down the country.

As soon the game is a obsesstion she dreams about the game replaying games in her dreams working out were she can improve and make her defence tight as possible as the future opponents will be the best in the world she eventually beats the usa champoin and she meets one of the russains and gets beat.

She realises that she must get all the past games memorise there stlye of play and any weakness in there game.she studied opening moves midgame and end game eventually she goes to russia and plays the six best players in the world she wins them all and plays the world champ at the end and beats the old dude. As chess is very simalar to pulling women the opener is huge first impressions then you got past the opener then you get to midgame breaking her defences down then there's end game breaking the last defence and last minute defence or resitance and having your wicked way with the lovely lady as chess is hard game without reading and studying you stay a novice level and know progression witout effort and balls of steel.

RLAJay 12-04-2011 11:05 AM

Analogy falls down. Women aren't enemies or some form of competition trying to beat you by out playing you. They're just human beings with various issues and neuroses just like you trying to get through life.

Don't be trying to outplay them or beat them, that's a really good way to end up with a pretty misogynistic mindset. Simply try to have fun with them while being attractive within yourself, there's no need for an i must beat them mindset.

chops147 12-04-2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RLAJay (Post 42219)
Analogy falls down. Women aren't enemies or some form of competition trying to beat you by out playing you. They're just human beings with various issues and neuroses just like you trying to get through life.

Don't be trying to outplay them or beat them, that's a really good way to end up with a pretty misogynistic mindset. Simply try to have fun with them while being attractive within yourself, there's no need for an i must beat them mindset.

this is true but chess applies heavily in being non-reactive.

If you're reacting to your opponents moves they have bettered you and you need to get your shit together.

RLAJay 12-04-2011 09:46 PM

That's not the analogy he was using though, he was merely describing a beginning, middle and end. A novel would be a better analogy to use and far less "WOMEN ARE THE ENEMY!". A book must have a good start in order to hook the audience, it must then immerse the reader with depth and intrigue, creating a connection between the reader and the characters, and finally it must have a fantastic ending climax ;)

daleinthedark 13-04-2011 05:21 AM

how can you ignore RLAJays point, he put a wink on the end of climax

piers147 13-04-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chops147 (Post 42322)
this is true but chess applies heavily in being non-reactive.

If you're reacting to your opponents moves they have bettered you and you need to get your shit together.


If the opponent chooses to sabatage the game as he choose to sacrifice the queen rather then retreat then this can ruin a potentail good and enjoyable experience game as for reacting i like to play a open game and not play silly buggers thats all! And fuck yeah i react its the irish in me.And the law of averages is key . :moon:

chops147 13-04-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by piers147 (Post 42437)
If the opponent chooses to sabatage the game as he choose to sacrifice the queen rather then retreat then this can ruin a potentail good and enjoyable experience game as for reacting i like to play a open game and not play silly buggers thats all! And fuck yeah i react its the irish in me.And the law of averages is key . :moon:

yea but sacrificing the queen is not expected and thus causes confusion

chillem 14-04-2011 12:45 PM

Chess is more akin to war or a battle imo. Do you see being social and shagging birds as a battlefield?

piers147 14-04-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chillem (Post 42578)
Chess is more akin to war or a battle imo. Do you see being social and shagging birds as a battlefield?

To answer your question well yes life and competion from other males getting with a woman is about breaking the barriers down that the woman has she has to test you! To weed out out the weak from the strong.

As status is huge in life without it i think getting and keeping a class woman will be a struggle as a lot of the women want to be wined and dined in my experience.

And the socail side well men try to amog all the time look in any gym or football dressing room its apparent that amogging is every day part of life you will have the loud socail male dominating the conversation and will act the leader most women will find this particular guy attactive then the quite submissive guy that says very little and will be left on the shelf and will be the guy that looks angry moody non socail but will think this behaviour is cool and have the women wanting him not so!.

As when i go out i see a group of young guys all acting and trying to out amog each other and i think they are clueness thinking they are afcs that are usually suffering from AA and will not have the ability to chat at a level that will seduce the ladies in the venue.Also the way guys walk through the bars irratates me with there aggressive body language i keep thinking you fucking wanker you have the socail skills of a neandethel there are to many idoits in the world just the way it is do you have a solution?

chops147 14-04-2011 04:15 PM

I think poker Is a good to compare.

just like in poker you're trying to get them to invest into the pot only with game it's an emotional investment.

for instance slow playing is very similar to not revealing lot bout yourself so they have to invest.

a bet could be similar a to neg challenging their strength.

e.g girl: bet 200= I prefer goth guys (you're dressed smart)
you: raise 800=oh well
girl: fold= but you're really buff


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