If you think back 1000s of years ago when we were cavemen, I guess when we got hungry and there were no animals to eat, we would eat these mushrooms wild? Imagine how that would impact civilisation?

I personally have never had one of these experiences, when I think back, I have had highly emotional phases, depression, anxious, immensely happy, even days when I feel kinda fresh, like nothing in the world could phase me. I've had one of those days where you just feel the rain and enjoy the moment (I was a lot younger though). But I don't feel enlightened, and I do wonder what it would feel like. (I Think Jacob in Lost seems like this)

Enlightenment comes from understanding that your entire reality is formed in your brain.

I think you should all just go wash your bowl.

Eye eye, just found your December post about the exact same thing! You're right, I'm riding the Ox whilst looking for the Ox again, so easy to fall into that trap.

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I did mushrooms twice never enlightening just felt totally weird like awake but dreaming at the same time.
the second time we went to my mates dads place who'd done a few in his time.
he was painting a picture when I asked him what it was he said "I'm painting my soul"
the funny thing was it actually looked like it could be his soul ;)

wut?


I think these 'moments of clarity' are largely bollocks. No-one here knows the answers to any of the 'big questions', and no-one here has reached nirvana. The little realisations you are all talking about are part of growing up and becoming a more balanced person. Realising that you have to take responsibility for yourself, realising that it's not all going to 'fall into place', realising that that girl isn't going to come over and jumpy your bones etc etc, and then also realising that it's up to you, and no-one else to make these things happen.

So in summary: we're all idiots, liars and children? Well that's a relief, there was me thinking this was something scholars and seekers have grappled with for thousands of years. That Buddha chap must have been a right cunt.

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I have to say, there is a big difference. On one hand you have masculine realisation which involves all of the above. You take control of your life and you can do a lot of great things.

On the other you get moments of clarity, where there is no internal dialogue in your mind, you only think in terms only that which is around you

No, I didn't say that at all - strong misinterpretation. I'm just saying that true enlightment comes after a lifetime of meditation and truly being at one with oneself (eg - Gautama Buddha). These little 'moments' that y'all are talking about are just realisations about life - which is good, but come on, "enlightment?" - that's going a little too far don't you think? This is a website for picking up women - I can't imagine there are many even moderate ascetics on here. You yourself suffer from bouts of depression...is that really the hallmark of an enlightened mind?

Sure you did, you came from a charmingly condescending frame. Plus you are projecting the falsehood that I said I am an enlightened mind, just to rubbish that projection with the depression comment, which is a transparent, although likely unconscious method of spin to reinforce your own perspective. Clearly if I still enjoyed the state, I would not be having this conversation which I am already regretting allowing to continue. I just raised that something temporary happened to me for two weeks, which was interesting and suggestive, and which others have experienced too for a very long time, including people involved in self development and on this forum. Had you experienced it you wouldn't put it in remotely the same box as the things you mention, it's not a "nuts and bolts of life with growing pains" type thing...as I say we're not naive just because it sounds a bit spiritual and flighty.

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