October man

[lifeguard]

Everyones heard of it, has anybody used it? I don't think the video is all of it because it is based on Milton Ericsons February Man. What ericsons did was change a ladies past from being overweight to growing up slim, all in the mind, basically implanting false memories so she could stay slim. I think the idea is to alter a womens identity into whatever you want. Controversial

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[Tom]

That's pretty creepy

[lifeguard]

I wouldn't advocate implanting false memories but it appears October man uses a lighter version on closer inspection, basically getting a woman into a particular state you would like to get them in - one for stripping, orgasm etc. Is it worth me finding out what peoples perceptions of NLP are on here and how its used for seduction? I don't really want to suffer any abuse when I am just finding my feet with the whole thing... (I haven't seduced someone in my life by the way)

Or perceptions of October Man, I have just seen someone offering ways to get someone to cheat on their boyfriend so i'm a little confused why this obviously effective technique is so bad? What do people perceive the october man to be?

[legend]

Hey man,

Do a search in this forum on NLP. Loads of threads have been posted here in the past. And make your own judgment. This is an open forum, post whatever you like. Some people are open to it and some people are dead against it and some are sitting on the fence. Its like the Natural against MM debates. I always from the beliefs that use whatever works for oneself. I have read the Game, MM, Gunwitch, etc and now fascinated by RSD's Blueprint Decoded..!!

Sync is the NLP guy in here but he hasnt posted over summer as he has been away.

I think twisted is reading some NLP books.

I certainly would like to hear what you have to say about NLP....!

I dont have an opinion on the October Man cos I have only heard about it without reading/studying the method. So I cant comment.

Much Success!!

p.s. I think "abuse" is very strong. ANyway it wont be tolerated in here.

[lifeguard]

Originally Posted by legend

p.s. I think "abuse" is very strong. ANyway it wont be tolerated in here.

Cool. I was just curious as to peoples perceptions of it. I came here because I frequent an NLP forum that is quite professional but people go on their trying to get advice on the speed seduction thing and get quite a pasting for it because of peoples misperceptions of it. PUA that is. I didn't want to then com here and get a pasting of type because of peoples mis perceptions of NLP if that makes sense.
Opening up with a watered down version of the October Man was pretty risky because there are so many different versions of it claiming that it is October Man. So I thought I would dig a bit deeper and found this "forbidden patterns" e book, shit myself and hoped people didn't think I was advocating those things at all. those patterns were all about installing paranoia and removing the lady from her friends by making her paranoid and insecure. Absolutely turned my stomach and wholly unnecassary if you want a woman to ejaculate all over the place. That is my goal with using NLP - states of mind that will push the boundaries of how much pleasure a woman can take. And that can only be done on a consensual basis with the only manipulation involved is manipulating her pleasure which once experienced they will beg for time and time again

[BlueSteal]

I'm heavily into NLP and psychology. Everyone does without realising it.

As taken from the youtube link above:

The concept of symbolism in hypnosis is the idea of turning a particular feeling in a person into a symbol which is then manipulated. The symbol is anchored towards another person (the hypnotist) and this is further used in order to invoke certain feelings (pleasure or pain) in the person. This symbol is the link into a person's unconscious. By controlling this symbol, it is therefore possible to control the person's feelings at will.

Don't take this as gospel, im not a expert on this, but I surpose I would do a similar thing to what is mentioned.. here is a basic example.

As your conversation with a girl spices up and becomes more flirty and sexual, each time she gets excited you touch her arm or grab her hand playfully. You do this each time she gets excited and over the course of just a couple minutes of conversation, she has subconsioulsy linked that feeling to you holding her hand / touching her arm.

Then when you want to (k/f) close, you can then hold her hand or arm (in thesame place). Without saying anything you've instantly initated those feelings again in her mind. So any request or move you make at this point has no resistance.

Now thats a mild example, but goes to show how easy this stuff can be done. I'm sure we all do this kind thing, whether we realise it or not.

Mix the above with some ebedded commands and careful setence structure and you've got some dangerous shit!

Is it morral? In my eyes... course it is. All it is doing is helping you get your point across and structuring your language making you more articulate. NLP isnt some voodoo on the spot hypnosis system. It's just about structuring language.

those patterns were all about installing paranoia and removing the lady from her friends by making her paranoid and insecure.

Language is incredibly powerful and obvioulsy can be abused. Anything which does what you've mentioned is clearly immoral and wrong. I personally wouldn't have the stomach to go as far as that. With everything in life, theres a boundry.

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People are doing it just do not realise they are I agree. All NLP does is structure what people are doing so other people can learn it. If women even get a hint of someone being weird and creepy i'm sure they would run a mile. Why anyone would intentionally want to make a woman feel bad I have no idea but many men do do it and I suspect these so called forbidden patterns have come from those type men anyway, the ones that give men a bad name. The ones that turn beautiful women into wrecks and ruin it for everyone else.

Kowalski if you would like to watch the video type - in10se october man - into youtube to check out that version. People may still have their opinions but personally the whole PUA thing is about behaving in particular ways anyway so I do not see much difference

[lifeguard]

People are doing it just do not realise they are I agree. All NLP does is structure what people are doing so other people can learn it. If women even get a hint of someone being weird and creepy i'm sure they would run a mile. Why anyone would intentionally want to make a woman feel bad I have no idea but many men do do it and I suspect these so called forbidden patterns have come from those type men anyway, the ones that give men a bad name. The ones that turn beautiful women into wrecks and ruin it for everyone else.

Kowalski if you would like to watch the video type - in10se october man - into youtube to check out that version. People may still have their opinions but personally the whole PUA thing is about behaving in particular ways anyway so I do not see much difference