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Boscher 08-11-2011 02:28 PM

To fight?
 
So, I got started on by a fat knobend this weekend...

Here's the situation. I am sat at the bus station waiting for the bus, it's 11AM on a Sunday morning. Whilst I am minding my own business daydreaming, this fat angry guy waddles over from the pub and tells me to "stop fucking eyeballing him". I hadn't even noticed him before that, let alone starred at him, so I just completely ignore him.

He was seemingly drunk despite it being Sunday mid-morning, and under his breathe told me to fuck off whilst he wandered away into Coral, no doubt to blow what little money he had. Ten minutes pass and he comes out for a fag, I purposely avoid eye-contact as I dislike confrontation. But he's out for trouble and comes over again, gets right up in my face, swearing and provoking me.

It took alot, but I stayed cool and remained indifferent to his shit. He eventually gets bored of taunting me and goes back to the pub.
Now I'm not exactly the smallest guy either, 6ft and athletic build so I fancied my chances if it came to it, but I really hate fighting. He likely had nothing to lose, but I work in a customer facing industry and also a shiner isn't exactly attractive for the ladies. I'm willing to bet neither of us knew how to fight properly so we'd probably end up slugging each other a fair bit until one of us got hurt. This is in the town centre, there's CCTV and plenty of passers by.

Anyway to summarise, I tried not to let it affect me, but I can't help but feel like my pride got damaged and I should have just smacked him. On the bus ride home I felt angry with myself, disappointed that I did not step up and be a man. I know I probably did the smart thing, but I can't help but think that he bullied me and got away with it. I think if I had a girlfriend beside me or my mum then it would have ended in violence, but as it was just me I just sponged it up until he got bored and took the high ground.

What would you have done?

Knave 08-11-2011 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Boscher (Post 58462)
So, I got started on by a fat knobend this weekend...

Here's the situation. I am sat at the bus station waiting for the bus, it's 11AM on a Sunday morning. Whilst I am minding my own business daydreaming, this fat angry guy waddles over from the pub and tells me to "stop fucking eyeballing him". I hadn't even noticed him before that, let alone starred at him, so I just completely ignore him.

He was seemingly drunk despite it being Sunday mid-morning, and under his breathe told me to fuck off whilst he wandered away into Coral, no doubt to blow what little money he had. Ten minutes pass and he comes out for a fag, I purposely avoid eye-contact as I dislike confrontation. But he's out for trouble and comes over again, gets right up in my face, swearing and provoking me.

It took alot, but I stayed cool and remained indifferent to his shit. He eventually gets bored of taunting me and goes back to the pub.
Now I'm not exactly the smallest guy either, 6ft and athletic build so I fancied my chances if it came to it, but I really hate fighting. He likely had nothing to lose, but I work in a customer facing industry and also a shiner isn't exactly attractive for the ladies. I'm willing to bet neither of us knew how to fight properly so we'd probably end up slugging each other a fair bit until one of us got hurt. This is in the town centre, there's CCTV and plenty of passers by.

Anyway to summarise, I tried not to let it affect me, but I can't help but feel like my pride got damaged and I should have just smacked him. On the bus ride home I felt angry with myself, disappointed that I did not step up and be a man. I know I probably did the smart thing, but I can't help but think that he bullied me and got away with it. I think if I had a girlfriend beside me or my mum then it would have ended in violence, but as it was just me I just sponged it up until he got bored and took the high ground.

What would you have done?

I'm impressed, I've spent a lot of years doing martial arts and I know if I wanted to I could really disable someone permanently. I've always walked away from a fight even when someone was waving a glass in my face. I'm not going to get into PUA references I don't need that shit either anymore but a woman looks for strength in a guy and that doesn't mean how many dumbells you can lift. You showed strength, fighting some drunken dickhead would have been weak.

Of course protecting a woman is different but if this scenario would have been repeated with a woman present the risk would have still been to you not her, had you still walked away that would impress her more than fighting. A woman will know when you're a coward or possess real strength, you should never need to proove it.

You did the right thing stop beating yourself up.

Phil 08-11-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Boscher (Post 58462)
So, I got started on by a fat knobend this weekend...

Here's the situation. I am sat at the bus station waiting for the bus, it's 11AM on a Sunday morning. Whilst I am minding my own business daydreaming, this fat angry guy waddles over from the pub and tells me to "stop fucking eyeballing him". I hadn't even noticed him before that, let alone starred at him, so I just completely ignore him.

He was seemingly drunk despite it being Sunday mid-morning, and under his breathe told me to fuck off whilst he wandered away into Coral, no doubt to blow what little money he had. Ten minutes pass and he comes out for a fag, I purposely avoid eye-contact as I dislike confrontation. But he's out for trouble and comes over again, gets right up in my face, swearing and provoking me.

It took alot, but I stayed cool and remained indifferent to his shit. He eventually gets bored of taunting me and goes back to the pub.
Now I'm not exactly the smallest guy either, 6ft and athletic build so I fancied my chances if it came to it, but I really hate fighting. He likely had nothing to lose, but I work in a customer facing industry and also a shiner isn't exactly attractive for the ladies. I'm willing to bet neither of us knew how to fight properly so we'd probably end up slugging each other a fair bit until one of us got hurt. This is in the town centre, there's CCTV and plenty of passers by.

Anyway to summarise, I tried not to let it affect me, but I can't help but feel like my pride got damaged and I should have just smacked him. On the bus ride home I felt angry with myself, disappointed that I did not step up and be a man. I know I probably did the smart thing, but I can't help but think that he bullied me and got away with it. I think if I had a girlfriend beside me or my mum then it would have ended in violence, but as it was just me I just sponged it up until he got bored and took the high ground.

What would you have done?

u shud have smacked him HARD, he walked up to you drunk.

you could have claimed pre emptive strike as u felt threatened. He basically assaulted you by making you feel threatened. Ur allowed to defend urself.

u just had flight or fright, i trained myself years ago to just punch as soon as im put in that situation, and when they are on the floor, leave them and walk away!

Knave 08-11-2011 03:10 PM

There you go Boscher two polar opposites. You decide. I will say if you're going to use force you have to be sure you will win. I'm outta here

Boscher 08-11-2011 03:10 PM

Ha I half-agree, but Phil that goes directly against what your signature motto claims though?

Phil 08-11-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda (Post 58466)
agree with phil.

i have been smacked, and know i need to get the first punch in, just before they do.

this guy didn't wallop you first, doesn't mean the next one wont.

and had he pulled a knife out, ur better disarming your opponent before they get chance to do damage

Phil 08-11-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Boscher (Post 58468)
Ha I half-agree, but Phil that goes directly against what your signature motto claims though?

no, not really... my sig is a loss of emotional calm...

i dont lose my cool when i fight, in fact, i tend to smile & laff. Shouting and screaming is for big mouths

Refl3x 08-11-2011 03:54 PM

Ive not had a fight in over 10 years trouble just tends to leave me alone
I do give off an energy that says - dont fuck with me

if you are going to get into a fight, use your head - i mean goad him to hit you first that way you are ready for it and can block or avoid it and you are legally entitled to defend yourself
looks good on cctv also- THEN after defending yourself you can also do him for assault and get a few grand out of him and slap him with a criminal record


oh and Knave
I thought you didnt have time to post here anymore and for the second time were leaving the site....

Maxemillion 08-11-2011 05:16 PM

agree with LEAVE if u do fight, u dont know how many more fat bastards will waddle out of the pub to back him up. Saying that, if he;s an obvious twat its unlikely he'll have mates who care enough. always aim for the face/temples as an initial smack target as well. I'v previously got out of that situation by being unreactive and keeping calm eye contact.
"I;m going to mess u up, I dont like you;re face.."
>"Oh really, thats a shame"
"I;m really pissed off about XYZ"
>"Not my problem"
"What!?"
>"Thats not my problem"
"If there werent cameras here I'd break ur face"
>"Oh ok, see you mate, cheers"

felt pretty pleased with outcome. incidentally, have u seen in fights where girlfriend is present she will often kiss her bf infront of agressor as if to say "look, this guy is high value, he has a woman, she is attached to him and unavailable, his RAS is on her not the agressor". It never fucking stops a fight but its an interesting behaviour.

Phil 08-11-2011 06:34 PM

to be fair, in this situation he sounds like a muppet. people who start fights tend not to be able to

just for future reference my mate is a police officer, and he said if you feel someone is about to strike you, you can hit them first with whats called a pre emptive strike

given the circumstances that the guy was drunk, and u wer at a bus stop.. there is no way you would have been prosecuted


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