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Phil 14-09-2011 11:33 PM

Double Standards... Ok In My Book!
 
Here is a story which led me to this thought b4 in the bath.

I met a girl a month or 2 back.... had her round, played about, seemed like possible GF material, funny etc. then she went of on holiday for 3 weeks

on her return we didnt meet up as i went on holiday fairly shortly after her return

now she messaged me when she got bak, and we text a little and said we should meet up.

i called her and she didnt answer... got a text a few days later askin if i wanted to meet up so i forgot about her not callin back, we wer making arrangements but it seemed again we wer both busy so i said we should leave it till next week, she agreed.

so i called her yesterday... and again, she hasnt replied. Now to be fair this doesnt bother me... i do it all the time, but im gonna get rid.

now when people say "why u get rid" & i reply "coz she doesnt return calls for days" they will say

"ur a cheeky fucker u do it all the time to girls"

and i do, but just because i do it doesnt mean im willing to put up with it, its ignorant.

now im not angry, infact kudos to her.. she has a well high value of herself ... but a few years ago that would have had me RIGHT on my toes and lovin it. but it seems i cant be assed with it anymore...

if it feels like its gonna be any trouble whatsoever, i dont care for it.

its so cool to be that disregarding of things, even if they are like a cat string... ive found that i have passed the need to chase dangling things.

its such a nice place to have such self control.

but anyway, ye, double standards r fine as long as you don't get angry when someone treats you how u treat others, and you can shrug & say, cool, but the girls who put up with it from me are idiots, im not an idiot.

GenePoole 15-09-2011 07:53 AM

What else did you do in the bath you dirty fucker.

The thing is that on some level it annoys you as otherwise you wouldn't react by deleting their number. In fact deleting their number sounds like a way of dealing with the rejection, which is fine - it's a great way of forgetting about it. It's not that different a feeling from one-itis, which most say you should solve by going out and meeting someone else. You simply replace the emotion or any time you have invested.

Do you really think the girls who put up with it from you are idiots? The whole reason you do it is to get attraction from them on some level - it seems harsh to call them idiots afterwards.

Phil 15-09-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55620)

The thing is that on some level it annoys you as otherwise you wouldn't react by deleting their number. In fact deleting their number sounds like a way of dealing with the rejection

I've not been rejected.... its as i said its just how she is... she done it before then contacted me to meet up. i havent deleted her number. and she is on my facebook. il still talk to her & have a laf with her, but as far as as anythin more im not gonna bother... trust me, on some level it really doesn't annoy me which is the whole purpose of the thread

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55620)
which is fine - it's a great way of forgetting about it. It's not that different a feeling from one-itis, which most say you should solve by going out and meeting someone else. You simply replace the emotion or any time you have invested.

meet sumone else?? ye thats a good idea... coz me being me i only text one girl at a time.

the fact i had one of the fittest girls ive ever set eyes on bent over my kitchen table in a brownie uniform on the weekend askin me to cane her as hard as i can. that probably helped me get over the torment.

i had no emotional investment in this girl, and i havent in 99% of girls ive ever been meeting. im just saying you should expect respect from people, those who try GAMING you as such, consciously or unconsciously u should have no time for


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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55620)
Do you really think the girls who put up with it from you are idiots? The whole reason you do it is to get attraction from them on some level - it seems harsh to call them idiots afterwards.

yes i do... however i dont act that way with the ones i decide i wanna make my bitch.

these are the girls i treat as equals. i expect to be treated as such by everyone. if someone doesnt then i have no time for them... this applies to men and women and you should act the same

GenePoole 15-09-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 55622)
meet sumone else?? ye thats a good idea... coz me being me i only text one girl at a time.

I was talking generally not giving specific advice.

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the fact i had one of the fittest girls ive ever set eyes on bent over my kitchen table in a brownie uniform on the weekend askin me to cane her as hard as i can. that probably helped me get over the torment.
into deviancy now? :moon:

You do seem to have a very cynical view of girls. For a girl to treat you as an equal then they have to have no emotional investment in you either, correct?

Phil 15-09-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55630)
You do seem to have a very cynical view of girls

cant beleive YOU are sayin that to me.

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55630)
For a girl to treat you as an equal then they have to have no emotional investment in you either, correct?

no, the opposite.... all im sayin is,

its rude to be ignorant & people shouldnt put up with ignorant people

im ignorant to some....

not to others...

the ones who i am ignorant toward should not give me any of their time but they do.

Those who dont take my shit i respect for it.

those i have respect for i will not be ignorant toward..

this means if someone is ignorant, they are not showing me respect... which is fine, i dont demand respect... i just dont sit around to be disrespected... which is what lads who chase girls do.

the diff between me & u mate is i wont put up with shit from girls

u will. u shouldnt

GenePoole 15-09-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 55631)
cant beleive YOU are sayin that to me.



no, the opposite.... all im sayin is,

its rude to be ignorant & people shouldnt put up with ignorant people

im ignorant to some....

not to others...

the ones who i am ignorant toward should not give me any of their time but they do.

Those who dont take my shit i respect for it.

those i have respect for i will not be ignorant toward..

this means if someone is ignorant, they are not showing me respect... which is fine, i dont demand respect... i just dont sit around to be disrespected... which is what lads who chase girls do.

the diff between me & u mate is i wont put up with shit from girls

u will. u shouldnt

shit like what? I generally have relationships so they put up with my shit, I put up with theirs - it's a different game. Any girl with attitude, I am not attracted so I don;t chase them anyway - they give off bitch vibes from miles away.

So, if they are ignorant and put up with your shit, and give you time, you fuck them.
Whereas if they don't put up with it and ignore, you just delete them.

Phil 15-09-2011 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55647)
Whereas if they don't put up with it and ignore, you just delete them.

if they ignore me, of course i delete them.

but who said anythin about ignoring.... she contacts me but after a few days.... thats not ignoring ... thats just being ignorant.

i cant be assed explainin any more! if u dont get it... re read

GenePoole 15-09-2011 05:00 PM

Your point is not to allow girls to play you the same way you play them.
Conclusion: the girls who put up with it you get to fuck, ie you like to fuck idiots.

Phil 15-09-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55655)
Your point is not to allow girls to play you the same way you play them.
Conclusion: the girls who put up with it you get to fuck, ie you like to fuck idiots.

exactly, all girls are idiots.

altho there are girls who are not ignorant but i like them & im not ignorant either

its a mutual respect i like fuckin them more.. if they become ignorant, then i will fuck them off... and will most likely be bothered as i invested emotion in them therefore end it before i get wrapped up!

so i suppose its dependant on where ur at.... either way they will be dropped.

that way ur never played! and ur never suffering onitis

chops147 15-09-2011 06:07 PM

it's a fair point one girl I'm just friends with she kept fucking me about so we're just friends now can't be arsed chasing her.

GenePoole 15-09-2011 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chops147 (Post 55668)
it's a fair point one girl I'm just friends with she kept fucking me about so we're just friends now can't be arsed chasing her.

but you'd fuck her if she offered, right? = not just friends, you're an orbiter :)

Giant 16-09-2011 12:15 AM

Your mentality seems to be that if your friends with a girl you would fuck, you're only friends because you hope you'll get a chance. This is crap, it may be true for YOU, doesn't make it true for everyone else.
I've got friends I'd fuck, doesn't mean I'm trying to fuck them though.

Phil 16-09-2011 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant (Post 55682)
Your mentality seems to be that if your friends with a girl you would fuck, you're only friends because you hope you'll get a chance. This is crap, it may be true for YOU, doesn't make it true for everyone else.
I've got friends I'd fuck, doesn't mean I'm trying to fuck them though.

ye i have friends i would fuck who are female... but i dont wanna fuck!

Giant 16-09-2011 12:48 AM

That post wasn't really aimed at you Phil. It was directed at Genepoole/Genepool.

GenePoole 16-09-2011 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant (Post 55682)
Your mentality seems to be that if your friends with a girl you would fuck, you're only friends because you hope you'll get a chance. This is crap, it may be true for YOU, doesn't make it true for everyone else.
I've got friends I'd fuck, doesn't mean I'm trying to fuck them though.

Well...my definition is that friends don't fuck each other. If they want to fuck then they are "lovers" or using each other for sex. At the point you have sex or want to have sex with them, the whole dynamic changes.

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 55683)
ye i have friends i would fuck who are female... but i dont wanna fuck!

How can you separate would fuck from don't want to fuck? If you would then you would if the opportunity came up. Maybe you don't actively follow but it's hardly a friend thing if you want to stick your cock in them.

As soon as I lose attraction for a girl, that's it, kick them out, never contact them again, do not be friends.

Phil 16-09-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55702)
Well...my definition is that friends don't fuck each other. If they want to fuck then they are "lovers" or using each other for sex. At the point you have sex or want to have sex with them, the whole dynamic changes.



How can you separate would fuck from don't want to fuck? If you would then you would if the opportunity came up. Maybe you don't actively follow but it's hardly a friend thing if you want to stick your cock in them.

As soon as I lose attraction for a girl, that's it, kick them out, never contact them again, do not be friends.

i have a mate, she is proper sound.... she is fit... but i dont wanna fuck her coz it would ruin the dynamic of our relationship.

i have freinds who are girls who i dont fancy

there are girls who im freinds with who i do fancy... probably will fuck at some point.. but am not activly trying or assed either way, coz fucking girls isnt that important to me that it rules my soul.

its not clear cut, i used to think like u until i realised who i really am

Giant 16-09-2011 12:04 PM

So you don't have attractive or unattractive female friends. You're trying to fuck the attractive ones (thereby making them objects of sexual frustration), and don't want to be friends with the unattractive ones?

Look I'm not friends with all of my ex's, but I'd be a shame to not talk to someone because we happened to have sex. The only reason not to be friends is if that friendship hurts, basically if you feel the pain of the "loss"

Phil 16-09-2011 02:00 PM

Gene pool... do you have any female friends u havent fucked yet??

daleinthedark 16-09-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 55725)
Gene pool... do you have any female friends u havent fucked yet??

is this more appropriate?

Guest 16-09-2011 03:59 PM

This is BULLSHIT! And you know what Genepoole, everything you are saying, a FEMALE FRIEND OF MINE (she's not attractive, I'm not trying to fuck her and we're friends, get over it) said it all to me the other day. She was saying that friends who fuck aren't friends. This is bullshit!

Two words for you. Limiting, Beliefs

Each to their own viewpoint I guess, but hey ho..

P.S HAVING SEX AS FRIENDS IS NOT USING EACH OTHER, IT IS ENJOYING EACH OTHER

Phil 16-09-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by al_phaD (Post 55737)

P.S HAVING SEX AS FRIENDS IS NOT USING EACH OTHER, IT IS ENJOYING EACH OTHER

do you want to enjoy me

Guest 16-09-2011 04:24 PM

yes, yes i do

GenePoole 16-09-2011 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 55725)
Gene pool... do you have any female friends u havent fucked yet??

I have in the past slept with girls I would have classed as friends but I wasn't pursuing them, they came onto me. However, when we split up, that was it, end of friendship. I have female friends in my social group but although some are good looking, I am not attracted to them, they don't hit the right buttons.
Like I said, When Harry Met Sally, a man and a woman cannot be friends when there is sexual tension, you become lovers at that point due to the attraction.

Phil 16-09-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55750)
I have in the past slept with girls I would have classed as friends but I wasn't pursuing them, they came onto me.

Hang on... i thought u dont do female friends


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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55750)
However, when we split up, that was it, end of friendship.

Hang on... i thought u dont do female friends

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55750)
I have female friends

SAY WHAT!!!!

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55750)
I have female friends in my social group but although some are good looking, I am not attracted to them, they don't hit the right buttons.

Hang on... i thought u dont do female friends

GenePoole 16-09-2011 04:59 PM

You read wrong, I didn't say I don't have female friends, I said that once you want to or have slept with them you are more than friends.

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 55741)
do you want to enjoy me

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Originally Posted by al_phaD (Post 55744)
yes, yes i do

Can we have a 3some?

Phil 16-09-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 55762)
You read wrong, I didn't say I don't have female friends, I said that once you want to or have slept with them you are more than friends.


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Originally Posted by GenePoole (Post 54845)
I don;t see the point in staying friends with girls unless you want to shag them.


From another thread, seems pretty clean cut to me

GenePoole 17-09-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 55785)
From another thread, seems pretty clean cut to me

Well then I didn't explain clearly.
I should have emphasized the words "staying friends" with girls, meaning after you have slept with them, if you stay friends, then the sex is always going to get in the way (you'll either still want to, she'll either still want to, or hew new BF isn't going to like it, hence you're not really friends, you're just an orbiter).
I am friends with plenty of girls that I don't want to shag or am not actively interested.
Anyway, this is kind of off topic for this thread.


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