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Phil 15-12-2010 10:20 AM

What is it you think direct is exactly??
 
Can everyone put down their view of a DIRECT approach

tell me what you think direct is

give an example of a direct approach real or made up!

Joe_Fresh 15-12-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 31923)
If person thinks x -
  • Direct - "x"
  • Indirect - "y ... (x)"

say whatever u think, does it not matter if its couched in a routine/line?

eg go up to a girl in a club and say in a playful but awesome french accent, "u r beautiful, do u speak french?" she says "no..hehe" u say "do u know how to french kiss" she says "ermm" you say "well i must show u...come here"

is this direct?..real intention is clear from start..u think shes beautiful and want to kiss her...

Zone 15-12-2010 11:44 AM

I said to girl behind a bar once, after she served me, I said "can i say something to you, I find you very attractive".

Fairly Direct I feel.

Joe_Fresh 15-12-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 31921)
Can everyone put down their view of a DIRECT approach

tell me what you think direct is

give an example of a direct approach real or made up!


ur response to the op was vague, ur "definition" was lacking, so yes if i read that in a dictionary i would dig deeper to get a better understanding

that time of the month?

Midas touch 15-12-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zone (Post 31928)
I said to girl behind a bar once, after she served me, I said "can i say something to you, I find you very attractive".

Fairly Direct I feel.

There's nothing wrong with that. It's a compliment and not vulgar. On the other hand she probably hears it a lot and so it is only going to do you any favours if she also finds you attractive based on her first impression of you.

Midas touch 15-12-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tony77 (Post 31925)
Direct is being clear about yoru intentions right from the start! "hi I just noticed you and I would be kicking myself all day if I didn;t tell you, you are... really gorgeous"

That's fine. She's going to have to be attracted to you though for that to get you somewhere.

Paddy 15-12-2010 03:01 PM

Going direct just means having the bottle to say/do whatever you're feeling. It doesn't mean if I'm thinking a girl is hot I'm necessarily going to blurt out 'I WANT TO FUCK YOU', it just means, well not playing mental chess and actually engaging with people on a natural level that feels natural to you.

nova 15-12-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Midas touch (Post 31941)
That's fine. She's going to have to be attracted to you though for that to get you somewhere.

Sometimes it is that very action of putting your balls on the line that creates the attraction.

Phil 15-12-2010 05:04 PM

then i dont think direct works... i think if u go up to a girl and say I LIKE YOU, its too easy, ive tried that before, few times for curiosity purpous, dont work

, Hi just thought id come speak to you, bein a NICE GUY dont work... plus girls think "HE IS PRETENDIN TO BE NICE, BUT HE HAS THE BALLS TO COME STR8 UP LIKE THAT, DEFO A PLAYER"

so if ur gonna approach direct like a player, make sure its apparant you are, and she doesnt think ur pretendin to be nice... remember

PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY SUSPICIOUS OF PEOPLE THEY DONT KNOW WHO APPROACH THEM i.e. sales etc

u have more chance goin up an bein RAW CHEEK, where do you want me to take you?

Midas touch 15-12-2010 09:59 PM

You can't make somebody fancy you just by telling them that you fancy them and you can't make somebody want to fuck you just by telling them that you are going to fuck them. Attraction just doesn't work like that. We're not living in a porno. Maybe if they already fancy you loads.

Instant attraction is physical. If she is not physically attracted to you then you will have to attract her with your personality, which takes time.

Phil 15-12-2010 10:12 PM

so then whats the point in direct, isnt it just a hit & hope?

attraction is not just based on looks, it could be image, manner lots of stuff

Joe_Fresh 15-12-2010 10:18 PM

be direct if it makes life easy for u but feel free to soften the blow...

call it what u like

its whatever works for u, in a way thats authentic for u, and in a way that ur happy with after critical thought on the matter.

fuck the puritanical bullshit and the attempts at creating dichotomies, direct/indirect routines/natural..alot of it is just semantics, these categories are by no means strict. the categories overlap, they are far from mutually exclusive. those who go on like they are clearly havent thought this shit through.

hi kowalski!

Midas touch 15-12-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 31967)
so then whats the point in direct, isnt it just a hit & hope?

attraction is not just based on looks, it could be image, manner lots of stuff

Sure, but it takes time to convey these things. I don't think a HB is just going to jump in the sack with an average Joe because he has nice shoes, stands with his feet shoulder width apart, and uses a direct approach.

Phil 15-12-2010 10:50 PM

i think he was hi'ing you coz he expected u to jump on his post

Joe_Fresh 15-12-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 31923)
If person thinks x -
  • Direct - "x"
  • Indirect - "y ... (x)"

u call that a definition, its totally lacking. its got far too many variables to provide any sort of real full meaning to such a grey concept.

Zone 15-12-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Midas touch (Post 31939)
she probably hears it a lot and so it is only going to do you any favours if she also finds you attractive based on her first impression of you.

I went direct because I got the feeling she liked me, and being confident can help create and build attraction.

It wasn't her first impression of me.

I disagree about she hears that a lot, what most guys do when their after a hotti, is they just start talking to her, like trying to get to know her, guys with more confidence normally flirt while trying to get to know her.

To say what i said i bet is actually rare.

Joe_Fresh 15-12-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 31975)
i think he was hi'ing you coz he expected u to jump on his post

naa blad, he got me...was callin his ass out!

luv u k

x

Joe_Fresh 15-12-2010 11:23 PM

oh really....k ur definition is far to narrow to provide any sort of full meaning...its lacking, it accounts for no subtleties whatsoever...its simply not fit for purpose

Darood 15-12-2010 11:28 PM

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En1gma 15-12-2010 11:38 PM

*sits eating popcorn*

Midas touch 16-12-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zone (Post 31977)

I disagree about she hears that a lot, what most guys do when their after a hotti, is they just start talking to her, like trying to get to know her, guys with more confidence normally flirt while trying to get to know her.

Yeah, you're probably right.

Rebus 16-12-2010 01:49 AM

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I agree Joe it is both too vague and too narrow.
k, what a tease! To have lead Joe on with all your ex's and y-fronts.

Joe_Fresh 16-12-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebus (Post 32000)
k, what a tease! To have lead Joe on with all your ex's and y-fronts.

dude keep ur kowalski underwear fetish to urself.

nova 16-12-2010 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Midas touch (Post 31966)
Instant attraction is physical. If she is not physically attracted to you then you will have to attract her with your personality, which takes time.

It doesn't have to take any time at all. It can be as instant as walking up to her and opening your mouth. Hence the beauty of being direct. Until you do so, who knows how attracted she is to you.

Body language and voice tonality are probably the most important elements in a girl's attraction towards you. Anything else could be just fleeting, i.e. a girl may think, 'he's hot... until he opened his mouth' or 'until I noticed his nervous eye contact'.

Midas touch 16-12-2010 05:05 PM

Interesting, to say the least. I am taking it on-board.

Joe_Fresh 17-12-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 31994)
I agree Joe it is both too vague and too narrow.


Peace,

kowalski

narrow and vague are not mutually exclusive contradictory concepts..i am not therefore saying "direct" as a concept is "A" and also not "A" at the same time.

ur definitions of vague and narrow arent in keeping with mine.

1) narrow - Barely sufficient.

narrow - definition of narrow by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

2) vague - Not clear in meaning or application. Indistinctly felt, perceived, understood, or recalled.

vague - definition of vague by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

1 causes 2. the law of the excluded middle is in no way breached. if ur about to say im being selective in my definitions i could just as easily same the same to u, however i refer u to the above websites as references.

the real point remains that ur definition is lacking..ur equation simply does not fully define this none scientific term. im sure u agree.

Joe_Fresh 17-12-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 32032)
"Barely sufficient" was not your definition of narrow at the point of posting, as is borne out by the context. It would merely have been convenient that you had been able to find a definition that could have helped you to escape the contradiction, if this were a legal case; which it is not.


Peace,

kowalski


hmmm didnt know u could read minds..i would say the context fully bares out my intuitive understanding of above referred to definitions.

anyway.

bro my case has been proven..ur definition is vague narrow and lacking..in essence shite and not fit for purpose! ;)

ur comments, whilst entertaining, could possibly serve as mitigation....at best. case closed g ;P

peace

Joe_Fresh 17-12-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda (Post 32045)
joe you have underlying beef with k which is why you have completely gone psycho in this thread?

na yo..i got mad lovz for kdogg

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarda (Post 32045)
also it can be so difficult to grasp your points because of your writing style. it definitely does not appeal to the masses

i know...ah well

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarda (Post 32045)
i also spotted what i think is an error in your post, but i could be wrong.
you mentioned narrow and vague being non mutually exclusive in retort to kowalskis statement of his definition being narrow AND vague

na my comments were right ;)


peace


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