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VibeSpreader 24-03-2020 12:40 AM

How Corona will affect Cold Approach
 
As everyone knows, cold approach has a bad rep for many reasons, partly because of socially inept people using it as a 'self development' tool. The media found it easy to paint the narrative of PUA's as manipulative psychos without morals. That's a massive topic in itself, but forget that.

For the people here that are actually successful at meeting women outside their social circle/online dating, I make a prediction.

For men, after x time of isolation, the already 'low level' gamers/normal guys are even worse at being non-needy, self amused etc. People that didn't do much cold approach will do less. The prolonged time without getting laid will lead people to fall into LTRs faster than they would have.

Women, in general, after being so used to extra hours on their phones, isolated and not meeting new people, that when they do get approached... the initial awkwardness of being approached for the first time in x weeks will be significantly higher. However when it's done well, women will be even more happy to meet someone who puts them at ease and doesn't immediately stink of desperation, reacting to them too much, or have a gopro pinned to their chest ;)

The rich get richer (unless you had all your money in stocks!) and the poor get poorer (unless you've got a serious personal drive to improve yourself and have certain resources)

Thoughts? Just a late night ramble.

Stein 24-03-2020 08:00 AM

To a degree yeah, but things should balance out afterwards after not too long. As with all things game, making predictive reads on situations you don't yet know can be risky. I could see new people coming to conclusions that game is somehow different after quarantine, then overcompensating and making their game worse as a result. Game is fundamentally game, so always best to read in real-time.

Similarly, a risk for new people are more probably going down information rabbit holes, watching a bunch of PUA material that may not work, at least the way they think it should, and letting it sink in too much without testing. Stay off youtube people.

There are ways you could work this to your advantage if you're creative. Not all game is cold approach, and if you know what you're doing you can actually leverage social circles and social media to make things way easier for you. Something I've been meaning to write about for a while. A time like this would be a good time to put ground work in on something like that.

kowalski 24-03-2020 12:00 PM

A lot of this is about expressing yourself comfortably. So, whatever you are about to go through should only really change that in as much as you actually change so how you express would obviously change along with that or a change in your comfort to express.

The moment matters too and you can imagine what it might be like to be in moment x but you really have to wait to be in it and feel it to respond to it, not least because it’s so volatile.


Peace,

kowalski

dan300 25-03-2020 03:45 PM

I think after all this, everyone's gunna be extremely happy and high on life through having been given back their freedom and everything they'd previously been taking for granted.

If this happens during the upcoming summer, when weather is relatively nice, and we have been given the all-clear to safely talk to each other again without restriction, I believe a lot of girls will be more approachable than ever.

Let's say we're locked up, so to speak, for 2 months, well after that, the new found appreciation for life that I believe most of us will have gained, will open us ALL up a lot more to genuine human interaction in general, not just us approaching girls.

VibeSpreader 25-03-2020 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stein (Post 127216)
To a degree yeah, but things should balance out afterwards after not too long. As with all things game, making predictive reads on situations you don't yet know can be risky. I could see new people coming to conclusions that game is somehow different after quarantine, then overcompensating and making their game worse as a result. Game is fundamentally game, so always best to read in real-time.

Similarly, a risk for new people are more probably going down information rabbit holes, watching a bunch of PUA material that may not work, at least the way they think it should, and letting it sink in too much without testing. Stay off youtube people.

There are ways you could work this to your advantage if you're creative. Not all game is cold approach, and if you know what you're doing you can actually leverage social circles and social media to make things way easier for you. Something I've been meaning to write about for a while. A time like this would be a good time to put ground work in on something like that.

Agree with all of that. Cold approach should 100% be an bonus part to your social game, anyone that just cold approaches but is Billy No Mates is either going to just be rubbish/creepy. I've been finding over the last few days while I'm busy working on my business, a lot of chicks I havn't banged in a while or potential leads that went cold are hitting me up just to chat because they're bord/lonely, I'm also talking to my male friends and family more by voicenote which is fun, how about you?

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 127218)
A lot of this is about expressing yourself comfortably. So, whatever you are about to go through should only really change that in as much as you actually change so how you express would obviously change along with that or a change in your comfort to express.

The moment matters too and you can imagine what it might be like to be in moment x but you really have to wait to be in it and feel it to respond to it, not least because it’s so volatile.


Peace,

kowalski

Dope.

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I think after all this, everyone's gunna be extremely happy and high on life through having been given back their freedom and everything they'd previously been taking for granted.

If this happens during the upcoming summer, when weather is relatively nice, and we have been given the all-clear to safely talk to each other again without restriction, I believe a lot of girls will be more approachable than ever.

Let's say we're locked up, so to speak, for 2 months, well after that, the new found appreciation for life that I believe most of us will have gained, will open us ALL up a lot more to genuine human interaction in general, not just us approaching girls.
Ah man I do hope so, for 5 million self employed people, Thursday will be a big day to hear what the government say about how they're going to help. Money worries do affect the level of people's life appreciation and a recession at the least is more than probable. Personally, while I date a lot I don't spend much money on them, which seems to be a consistant complaint amongst most guys. Pesky social conditioning on dinner dates early on pahah.

dan300 26-03-2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VibeSpreader (Post 127228)
Ah man I do hope so, for 5 million self employed people, Thursday will be a big day to hear what the government say about how they're going to help. Money worries do affect the level of people's life appreciation and a recession at the least is more than probable. Personally, while I date a lot I don't spend much money on them, which seems to be a consistant complaint amongst most guys. Pesky social conditioning on dinner dates early on pahah.

I'm sensing that you're in the self-employed category?

If so, tonight's UK press conference should have gave you some reassurance.

VibeSpreader 28-03-2020 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 127235)
I'm sensing that you're in the self-employed category?

If so, tonight's UK press conference should have gave you some reassurance.

I spent 1.5 years in NYC in 2017, so thats not great for me because they average your last 3 years taxes. Oh well.
Side point, me and a buddy had infield cameras to set up a 'simple-pickup' style youtube videos. I'm thinking it's not the right vibe to do them now, he's saying don't be a pussy.

'Hi, your facemask is super cute, so I had to talk to you from 2m away. I'm Vibespreader, I'm great at social distancing and hand satanising.'


Infallible right, any other openers people wanna add?

dan300 28-03-2020 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by VibeSpreader (Post 127244)
Side point, me and a buddy had infield cameras to set up a 'simple-pickup' style youtube videos. I'm thinking it's not the right vibe to do them now, he's saying don't be a pussy.

'Hi, your facemask is super cute, so I had to talk to you from 2m away. I'm Vibespreader, I'm great at social distancing and hand satanising.'

Yea, I don't think it's a good time for that. Could literally not have picked a worse time, actually. People are on edge and worried, and you're going to invade their personal space? Even keeping distance, you're still invading their mental space and adding to already heightened anxiety levels.
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Originally Posted by VibeSpreader (Post 127244)

..any other openers people wanna add?

I've secured a bunch of dates/interest from online with "If COVID-19 doesn't take you out... can I?"

Only 1 girl took it the wrong way. I sent it to a mixture of girls I've kissed, and some I haven't yet met. Some of these were girls I'd been planning to meet up with, but the communication fizzled out, and I 've been able to rekindle things. I don't think I sent it to anyone I've already had sex with. Most found it very funny and when followed up with some jokey reference along the lines of, if the world doesn't end we should be grateful for the opportunity, most girls who responded are keen.

kowalski 28-03-2020 09:10 AM

Communicating with girls during confinement is 98% gay.


Peace,

kowalski

dan300 28-03-2020 09:15 AM

I just thought that line was genuinely too good to waste.

In these apocalyptic times, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do, man.

VibeSpreader 29-03-2020 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 127249)
Yea, I don't think it's a good time for that. Could literally not have picked a worse time, actually. People are on edge and worried, and you're going to invade their personal space? Even keeping distance, you're still invading their mental space and adding to already heightened anxiety levels.

I've secured a bunch of dates/interest from online with "If COVID-19 doesn't take you out... can I?"


Valid that people are on edge so a mean prank isn't nice, but if energy is super positive I think it's debatable to say a positive approach is invading mental space. Doesn't have to be cold, could be just a funny line when buying food at tescos. I'm friendly with everyone, especially during this horrible time. Side note, I never invade a girls personal space when cold approaching, do you? Great line btw, will report back with results.

dan300 01-04-2020 11:50 AM

I'd probably do the same tbh, make a funny comment here and there if the opportunity presents itself.

No I don't invade personal space. I have been in the personal space of girls, having approached them minutes before, but that's just a result of how those particular interactions went, right up to kissing them on the face or lips.

Ain't made such an intimate approach in quite a while though.

stonecastle 02-06-2020 11:39 AM

Since the lockdown began almost 12 weeks ago I only managed to do a couple of approaches and get anywhere at all. My best approach was in Kensington Gardens when I spoke to two South African women.

VibeSpreader 22-06-2020 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 127273)
I'd probably do the same tbh, make a funny comment here and there if the opportunity presents itself.

No I don't invade personal space. I have been in the personal space of girls, having approached them minutes before, but that's just a result of how those particular interactions went, right up to kissing them on the face or lips.

Ain't made such an intimate approach in quite a while though.

Details of said face kisses, sound's weird, like you went for a top right forehead kiss?

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Originally Posted by stonecastle (Post 127799)
Since the lockdown began almost 12 weeks ago I only managed to do a couple of approaches and get anywhere at all. My best approach was in Kensington Gardens when I spoke to two South African women.

Thats a shame, what stopping you now parks are busy as fuck and people are more chilled out? And these south africans you speak of, was there a story behind mentioning it? Got me all worked up now!

Jeepster 24-08-2020 11:06 AM

Now life is more or less getting back to some sort of normality albeit the stupid, no proof the social distancing/masks etc bullshit is having an effect is still in place, but I wont wind myself up on those details.

Since the pubs have been open, I have spent a good deal of time people watching, something I enjoy doing, there is a world of entertainment out there and its great to teach yourself social skills.

Observations so far are.

Women are still acting indifferent especially within their own social bubble, and in perfect control of their emotions as women generally are.

The Beta boys and so called self proclaimed Alpha boys, who are totally NOT in control of their emotions are out in force acting like complete Dicks, doing what Dicks do, being completely over the top with Bravado, throwing things shouting getting pissed etc. Steaming in with no common sense what so ever only to be told to piss off.

To be ahead in our Game, we should be in complete control of our emotions, its an essential part of who we are. This wins the day with being social distancing savvy.

I have opened a fair few sets with respecting distance and boundries, sensible social skills and good control of emotions each time the women have been the ones to close the gap and instigated a more social situation and invited me into their social bubble. It all depends how you play the game.

Conclusion. Act sensible/emotianally mature, respect social distancing, control the drinking and there doesnt seem to be a problem with most women interacting.

VibeSpreader 07-09-2020 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeepster (Post 128303)
Now life is more or less getting back to some sort of normality albeit the stupid, no proof the social distancing/masks etc bullshit is having an effect is still in place, but I wont wind myself up on those details.

Since the pubs have been open, I have spent a good deal of time people watching, something I enjoy doing, there is a world of entertainment out there and its great to teach yourself social skills.

Observations so far are.

Women are still acting indifferent especially within their own social bubble, and in perfect control of their emotions as women generally are.

The Beta boys and so called self proclaimed Alpha boys, who are totally NOT in control of their emotions are out in force acting like complete Dicks, doing what Dicks do, being completely over the top with Bravado, throwing things shouting getting pissed etc. Steaming in with no common sense what so ever only to be told to piss off.

To be ahead in our Game, we should be in complete control of our emotions, its an essential part of who we are. This wins the day with being social distancing savvy.

I have opened a fair few sets with respecting distance and boundries, sensible social skills and good control of emotions each time the women have been the ones to close the gap and instigated a more social situation and invited me into their social bubble. It all depends how you play the game.

Conclusion. Act sensible/emotianally mature, respect social distancing, control the drinking and there doesnt seem to be a problem with most women interacting.

Nice conclusion, are you having similar success now than pre lockdown? More for me now.

Jeepster 07-09-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by VibeSpreader (Post 128413)
Nice conclusion, are you having similar success now than pre lockdown? More for me now.

Good to hear your success rate is up, still a way to go before we are back to normal, its getting there people are relaxing more.

Not long before lock down (5 months) I ended a L/R, just enough time to blow the cobwebs off and back into pre L/R PU had reasonable success with number closes most I never bothered to follow up on, a couple of fuck closes, 1 not memorable at all the other a waitress in the local cafe. Little petite Brunette, boring as fuck but dirty in the sack she was a 2nd date fuck. Then lock down.

Interactions are getting easier I have noticed, this maybe due to the venues, I have been building a portfolio of the less restrictive places and found the women far more relaxed and willing to interact in the less restrictive places.

Due to shift work pattens and working the odd weekends i've been slightly hampered, hence no shagging thus far, some numbers though but its been good to practice and be in the company of women.

I have a couple of field reports to write when I can make the effort to put them up.


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