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Loke 29-10-2010 07:39 PM

Relationships and PU
 
Hi guys, when I started PU some years back, it all stopped when I got into a relationship, and when I came back out, it took me quite a while to find my feet again.

Now that I've again entered a relationship, my PU activities are generally limited to opening sets for my wings, or winging them in sets. I also do some social stuff like expand my social circle with girls and guys.

Anyone else got any experience with game and relationship? Feel free to share how you've handled it.

Cheers,
Loke

Phil 29-10-2010 08:57 PM

yeah, pua's are destined to doom as you can overlook the communication in relationship

Phil 29-10-2010 08:58 PM

also... go an get laid LOADS that helps

CovertOperation 30-10-2010 08:55 AM

This is a classic dilemma I guess, and which is why you need to have a clear idea of your goals, and of your reasons for getting into pick up.

If you want to meet a woman for a monogamous long term relationship, then pick up can help you do that. But alas, be prepared to have to bring it to a halt once you're in a relationship which is an implicitly exclusive relationship.

There's nothing wrong with doing that. But you're right, if and when you return to being single, it will again take you a little while to get to grips with it all. Practising pick up is like working your social muscle. You go out and practice, and it grows bigger and stronger and more useful. You don't go out, and you don't practice, and it withers and shrinks, and you regress.

Loke 01-11-2010 08:47 AM

Thanks for the answers guys.

@Phil your posts are as always great fun to read, not exactly relevant though. I'm on top of the getting laid bit as well, thanks for the advice though ;)

@Kowalski Lines and canned routines are certainly not how i go about PU. I've studied structured game with canned routines, DavidDs C&F game, and RSDs natural game. In the end I've developed my own style of game that feels natural and a part of me. So I think you're right when you say that as a natural you don't lose your game just cause you are on a hiatus. I also still teach PU and wing my friends, I also open sets both guys and girls just to be social so it's not like it's the end of PU.

@CovertOperation I got into PU to have fun, and I've had loads of fun. Another thing I wanted to do was to chose a girlfriend from a state of abundance, not any girl that comes along. When I met this girl I was having 6 "relationships" on the go, and I was happy to break it off with all 6 because I felt this girl was more than just sex. She ticks all my boxes, so it's worth giving it a try. If it turns out that she is not all that I think she is, I'll let her know. But right now, things are really good :)

@Tony Thanks for your thoughts on this as well, I don't feel much of it applies to me, as I'm not in the same place as your friend nor in the mode 4 etc. I certainly didn't enter this relationship for the sake of it. I've also merged our social circles, so that she is friends with my friends and vice versa.

SashaPua 02-11-2010 07:42 PM

Womens
 
Bingo. Kowalski is my new hero :P

Question was a bit vague... what's your goal dude?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 29013)
If this is all about lines, tactics, moves etc., then you will lose it when you have a girl because you won't be able to continue.

If this is all about free expression of the authentic self, then you won't lose it when you have a girl because you will be able to continue.


When I haven't been chatting up girls for a while when I do again nothing is lost.

Confidence, free-expression, authenticity etc., are not skills.


Peace,

kowalski


Phil 02-11-2010 08:17 PM

get off him he was my hero first

Loke 03-11-2010 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SashaPua (Post 29195)
Bingo. Kowalski is my new hero :P

Question was a bit vague... what's your goal dude?

Question was indeed a bit vague, I was just after other people's experience with relationships and running game. How has others handled having an exclusive relationship with someone after having been running game for X years? etc etc.

Blusher 11-12-2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 29013)
If this is all about lines, tactics, moves etc., then you will lose it when you have a girl because you won't be able to continue.

If this is all about free expression of the authentic self, then you won't lose it when you have a girl because you will be able to continue.


When I haven't been chatting up girls for a while when I do again nothing is lost.

Confidence, free-expression, authenticity etc., are not skills.

Absolutely.

You're also less likely to 'lose' your girlfriend when you rely on such intrisic qualities.

I found out that what you call free expression of the self is achieved by shutting out the inner monologue. This inner chatter generally issues teacherlike commands before you talk and delivers negative criticism afterwards.

It is the most noticeable and the most toxic effect of PU ideology.


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