u guys are all deluded if u think women are not like men... I MEAN DELUDED

We don't doubt that but even man may drop the hb13's for 7.... just because she has greater values.

As they say "Beauty is in the eye of beholder"... it goes both ways!

Not at all. I don't consider myself good looking in the slightest and I don;t wear up the minute trendy clothes... nor do I train in the gym. This never seems to unsettle attraction on the girls part. If it did I would lose attraction for that girl anyway, so it's win win.

We are men, not models. If you take the mindset that a girl has to fancy you for your clean cut chin, then you've lost, and you'll be seeking IOIs from all the girls you come across. Go after the girls you like the look of, not the other way round.

Afraid to tell you mate but either you are completely full of shit, or you are knocking about with skanky girls that give blowjobs in toilets and shit. not that there's anything wrong with these girls, but basing your whole perception of women on these kind of girls is as absurd as the scouse accent (no offence)

What are these books you're on about. Are yo talking about books in general, or books on pick up?

As much as I hate to, I have to agree with phil. I personally think looks are a MASSIVE factor.

So many times ive been out with some of my 'pretty boy' mates who have no game and I've charmed the ass off a girl. But I'd say about 7 times out of 10 they'd drop me and try and seduce my mate. I don't think it's anything to do with confidence and being comfortable with yourself either. The majority of my 'pretty boy' mates are insanely self conscious and don't dare cold approaching girls.

Perhaps you need to review your mindset in set. You are seeing the girls as in control and selecting you or your mates, as you say THEY drop you.

Do your pretty boy mates pull a hell of a lot then? Or are they too self conscious to pull the trigger when it counts. I for one know too many pretty boys who get nothing.

You been thinking thoughts your whole life, and look where that's got you.

When I'm out with friends in pubs/clubs that one of the boys goes home with a different good looking girl every week. He's 6'3", lean 16st, tanned, looks like Gerald Buttler and is very confident (trust me he's HOT haha). My other mate's not a good looking guy but he's got a gorgeous girlfriend. Another friend, is chissel jawed, in good shape but socially backward and I'm not even sure he's kissed a girl.
I'd say I'm average looking (at best), but both my girlfriends have been very pretty (my mates reminded me they were out of my league often enough haha).

So as someone else said 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder', but there are things you can do to make yourself more 'attractive'. In my case I'm assuming my naturally cocky funny attitude made me more 'attractive'.

P.S. I'm new to pick up, this just my exeprience, so take it with a pince of salt.

Good looks are a foot in the door that's all, a good looking guy can get attraction from a girl instantly, but just as quickly dissipitates after 5 minutes of conversation with him.

If you're carrying abit of weight, it's not a problem you can lose it. If you're short like me there's not alot you can do about it but be cool with it, most tall girls won't be into you regardless therefore just go for shorter girls.