Hey guys,

Just want to show you a quick conversation from tonight and get your thoughts on it, with an HB9 from work, hooked up with her a few times, usually very receptive and flirty. Conversation starts off OK, i then do the 'assuming' she was asking me out thing and it seems to give her an attitude and she starts shit testing me like crazy to the point where it just feels awkward and like she's not interested? Is she being sarcastic/shit testing or is she being genuinely nasty? Thanks in advance!


Sarah: nice gym gear

Me: Always bullying me arent you

Sarah: I know i'm awful arent i, what are you doing tonight apart from pretending to be at the gym?

Me: My team spurs are playing Barca tonight so im busy, out watching it. I agree we need to make plans though

Sarah: Who mentioned plans? Was just a question

Me: Drop the attitude or ill throw you over my shoulder and chuck you into the river Tees

Sarah: You're literally all talk tony james so im not that worried

Me: Naughty step now, brat

Sarah: All talk x dont worry i understand

Me: I said NOW. talk to me when you're ready to behave

Sarah: Well im getting a bit bored now

She's being normal dude. What's happening here is you're trying way too hard to be cocky and rapport breaking, to the point where it's like aggressive and odd. For this kind of thing to work they have to be into it too, and large amounts of the time girls just want to talk to you like a human.

Tbh in general you're way better off being straight up and asking her to meet up than pretending she was doing it. Assuming she was doing it puts the onus on her, but she can chill out a lot more if it's you doing it. A simple "What you doing Thursday? let's hang out" works perfectly fine.

Like when she goes "Who mentioned plans? Was just a question" that's obviously not her playing into it, so dial back a bit and be normal, then that idea has already been floated so you can touch on it again when the vibe is better. Instead, you're doubling down to the point where you're talking to her like you're her dom or some shit.

Doing this cocky shit talking stuff is good, but only in the right context. Girls need to know you're chill and won't be weird in order to fuck you, so it's worth prioritising being chill over this cocky shit. She's hooked up with you so she likes you well enough, so just dial it back.

Just ask her out. End of...I

Couldn't agree more. Overexuberance with the rapport breaking. Cockiness and assumption has to be integrated and subtle. If it's try hard, it's fatal.
Women pick up on what's implied, never on the out and out, in your face communication.
Being direct is a good way to show this, but you can also counterbalance it with a not caring vibe. For example, "what night are you free this week? it shows intent, but not too much control. It's normal, but unnervingly direct, and there's some anticipation also. But if she says Wednesday or Thursday, then you can show dominance and say "ill see you Thursday then, pick you up at 7" or whatever. You don't need all the needy try hard dominance. Keep the lines clean and precise. In my experience, you'll get the best results.