I'm new to this
 

Hi guys I am a student who basically has no luck with the lady's, ive recently decided to change that so I am currently reading "The Game" but I have no clue what to read next any advise?

Thanks for any help.

Don't get sucked into all that bullshit in "The Game" kid.

Forget the stuff in the book about "IOIs" and "negging" and allllllll that shit.

It's likely that you've posted an intro in a few/many forums. This forum is the one you'll find the most valuable advice from. Not routines. Not manipulation techniques. But good, solid advice.

You could get a kick up the ass too. But it would be for your own good.

dan300 thanks for the advise believe it or not I just want to become more confident in everyday life and I'm using this to bring me out of shell.

Agreed their is much garbage in "The Game" however there is also some good stuff. What the fuck is wrong with noticing IOI indicators of interest like eye contact or hair stroking? plus neggs is just playful banter, playful banter with women is not a good thing?

Some of you fuckers on this forum have got your heads stuck so far up your own deluded biased arses you don't know what's true or reality.

Plus "manipulation" is only a bad word to those who live in hypocritical ignorance.

Hey little faggot,

Stop crying into your mum's vagina and list all the good stuff in The Game and all the good stuff about noticing iois and negs and then we'll see how well your newly articulated ideas hold up.

Also, find out what words (like 'manipulation') mean before you use them. If you want to hammer a nail get a hammer not a Nokia 3310. Though maybe that would be the next best thing.


Peace,

kowalski

Hey little deluded bitch!

Have you even got strong eye contact from a girl then approached her? does it have to be done this way? no, it doesn't, but that doesn't mean it's not a good idea.

Have you ever playfully teased a girl and she started laughing? that's negging you fucktard!

Fuckers like you and Dan are trying to manipulate and control peoples views on this forum. Also trying to shame them if they follow any of the old school PUA stuff.

Just a blind, deluded and irrational focus on trying to sell and validate your own distorted biased views. Failing to see your own hypocrisy.

You unsurprisingly failed to list this supposed good stuff about iois and negs that there is in The Game.


Peace,

kowalski

Answer my two questions.

Received eye contact then approached?
Playfully teased a girl?

That´s not how argument works. You have to back your claim first.


Peace,

kowalski

Hey Hades

It sounds like you have 2 goals there; developing yourself and getting girls.

I personally found that by focusing on the former, the latter came easier and I was more fulfilled.

There is an author called Mark Manson who has 2 books that I enjoyed although as with all self-help books, take it all with a pinch of salt as after all he is trying to sell a product. His books are:
- Models
- The subtle are of not giving a f*ck

Models deals more with getting girls but there is also a large amount on self-improvement with regards to becoming a more confident, developed and therefore attractive individual.

I can't remember a great deal of The subtle are of not giving a f*ck as I listened to it at work as an audio-book but I liked the idea of choosing the areas of your life to give the limited amount of fucks we have

I don't think you understand what negging is, although thats probably a good thing.

haha your answer will back up my claim. That's why you won't. :)

Negging is playfully putting a girl down, taking the piss out of her, playful banter, just like how many people talk to each other every single fucking day.

But just because it has been given a name (Negging) it's evil and manipulative.

Errrm... Nope. You always do this. You're actually retarded at argument.

You made a claim about this book the game. Now you have been challenged to back that claim and instead you are asking questions of the other. That's a fallacious move. Even the dumbest of the dumb know this.

The onus of proof is on you.

Whether you understand this or agree with it or whatever is irrelevant. It's simply how argument works.


Peace,

kowalski

Haha arrogant dicks always confuse their thinking, their ideas with facts or reality.

Now you are on the defensive, name calling. I might be offended if those insults came from somebody with the ability to think properly without personal biases or ego.

I will answer the questions for you. Yes to both.

So you have done 2 things that the old school PUAs guys would teach, and was also in the book "The Game." But according to Dan and probably yourself everything in that book was nonsense. How does that work?

That doesn't back your claim.


Peace,

kowalski

In so much denial Kowalski! you know that's a defensive mechanism.

Not that everything in the book was nonsense. Just that most of it was seedy, sleazy shit. The PUA acronyms. The in-field signals. The manipulative techniques applied. The weird routines (that stemmed from mystery's magician background). Oh and now I mention it, the bizzare alter-egos that they named themselves, like fucking mystery.

There's some genuine psychology stuff that's sound, perhaps like rocking on the back foot and whatever. But if you're consciously thinking about doing that kind of thing "in set", you've already lost. Because your mind is elsewhere, ticking off the next box, rather than being authentic.

If you don't already have the skills you have to work on things consciously for them to become unconscious, automatic or authentic.

That's how you develop skills.

unconscious incompetence - don't know you're shit at something.
conscious incompetence - Now you know you're shit.
conscious competence - Got skills but you still have to think about it.
unconscious competence - Becomes natural, authentic, automated.

This also applies to basic applied psychology techniques for being a good conversationalist.

You manipulate people whenever you talk to them, when you smile at someone, it's a complete misconception that manipulation is a bad word. Hypnosis is demonised as well by those who believe what they see on TV.

Here's my denial, lol. I deny that you have backed your claim because without at least some quotes from the text you've proved nothing about the content of the book. I deny it because to deny it is to speak the truth about it.

I actually have to explain this to you. Do you understand what means?

It means that you have no clue how argument works. Therefore, as I've proved every time you pop up chatting shit, you are wrong about nearly everything in life.

Sucks to be you.


Peace,

kowalski

It's great to be me actually. Don't be bitter, I just understand a lot more than you.

Still no quotes. Good, good.

Also, only one of us has actually read and understands Nietzsche and his name is Lee.


Peace,

kowalski

That's good that you are familiar with Nietzsche, well done you! Just make sure you broaden your studies or you end up with limited views.

That quote applies very much to you. Maybe it's best for you to be in denial, we wouldn't want you having an identity crises. For that to happen you would need to open your mind which doesn't seem likely.

Back your claim ogtfo.


Peace,

kowalski