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William Wordsworth 06-05-2010 11:42 AM

Peacocking with grandad jumper
 
I have this jumper that looks rather christmasy or sumthing youd wear in Scandinavia.
I put this on specifically to go to the shop down the road as i knew HB5 chatty would comment and i couldnt pass an opportunity to get some much needed practice. so on the 5 minute walk i racked my brains for a story, ran thru a couple of ideas knew it would be something to do with Switzerland and a curse the rest id improv...

so when i got there i walked in alpha'd up giving nothing of my body language away acknowledging nobody, i picked up my 3 large rolls for a £1 (bargin) and headed to the four person que. stood there, I was actually really nervous as i knew i was about to blurt out a load of bullshit to somebody i barely knew. The man in front of me was next

AFC: hi there how are you today (blah blah AFC bullshit)
HB5: blahblah


I was next, i turned and looked at her for the first time and said:

Wordsworth: HI
she looks at my jumper, looks up at me, i feel it coming
HB5: Thats a horrible jumper
(whooo, i thought. bit harsh. I actually kinda like it)
Wordsworth: oh really well, it erm actually very um important, i inherited from a aaa erm swiss in on his death dead
at this point i saw the look in her face of "wtf"
Wordsworth: yer this man in the alps....um lost
at this point i got very quiet and self conscious
Wordsworth: yer this was all that was found of him...
I was flailing, so i through in my trump card...composed myself lead in hid my mouth away from the other customers and in a whisper i said: Its cursed...
HB: Really!
she said with surprise and enthusiasm
Wordsworth: No! you freak (big neg, she deserved it after the jumper comment!)
this point i felt a lot more natural and let out a laugh.
i then went on to tell her i bought it from topman after that my game fell to pieces. However i wasnt trying to game her, my aim was to test material and build confidence, which i achieved, even if i freaked her out. if she asks what i was talking about again, i can completely deny the exchange and move on. done. next.

Wordsworth

nova 06-05-2010 12:38 PM

I'm lost for words...

On a serious note, where'd you get your 3 rolls from for a quid? Sounds expensive to me.

Blanca 06-05-2010 04:34 PM

I'm lost for words too. Instead I'm going to quote from Withnail and I:

"You want workin' on boy"

Thankfully you've come to just the right place.

Also, what in god's name is a roll (other than a gymnastical move)? Do you mean bap by any chance?

perfecto 06-05-2010 07:02 PM

http://www.benicassim.org.uk/wp-cont...8/loo_roll.jpg

might be these?

:)

Hustler25 06-05-2010 07:43 PM

LOL @perfecto, I thought he meant shit-tickets as well!

Wordsworth, you are a literary genius perhaps next time recit some of your poetry as an opener;

'I wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd,
A host, of golden daffodils;'

The girls will melt. ;)

On a serious note, don't worry, respect for trying, don't be hitting on them HB5's and below mate, the War Pigs are the worst! Seriously they give you a raw deal, aim a little higher and you'll find your interactions will be alot more pleasant.

Tom 07-05-2010 08:16 AM

Surely that should be

'I wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd,
And opened them with a line about my grandad jumper'

William Wordsworth 07-05-2010 09:48 AM

Grandad jumper is a beast fellas! i opened a two set last night HB9 and HB7

HB7 and HB9: ooo love your jumper
Wordsworth: yer girl! its grandad chic, im representing.
HB 7: You know youre the coolest guy in here.
Wordsworth: totally agree with you.


i went on to do 5 question game with HB9, she loved it but got bored fairly soon and gave me the "phone off". went to open another group, I swiftly realized they were the only HBs in there! dry. so invited HB7 and HB9 back to my mates house for a drink and a smoke. HB7 frothing at the gash. but HB9 had her bitch shield firmly held. tonight i try again.


Wordsworth

nova 07-05-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Wordsworth (Post 18108)
i opened a two set last night HB9 and HB7

That's more like it... fair play Wordsworth. Grandad jumpers could be the new Ugg Boots.

Hustler25 07-05-2010 02:48 PM

'HB7 frothing at the gash'

HaHa! Love it.

Blanca 07-05-2010 08:00 PM

"Frothing at the gash" is an awesome phrase, beaten only by "ploughing" and "putting a young maiden to the sword".

Anywho, I want to nip your initial write up in the bud lest you, or anyone else reading this get the wrong idea (ie that this was a good way to go about your business). Let me dissect the first approach (to the stock pig in the shop), but first, props for getting back on the horse and having another go. This is half the battle.

1) First and foremost, your reasons for wearing the jumper were all out of synch. Wearing something in order to illicit a reaction from people is not a cool thing to do. It's akin to a bloke walking into a place and deliberately flashing his Rolex. It's lame because reaction-seeking behaviour is needy, and women can smell it a mile off. Wear the clothes, don't let them wear you. For a more in-depth discussion, see A-Train's thread from a while back:

http://www.puaforum.co.uk/pua-genera...what-wear.html

2) You made a mistake opening a 5, for two reasons. Firstly, as a less attractive girl, she will be naturally cynical of any guy hitting on her - she is inclined to think you're taking the piss; "he can't seriously be chatting me up, I never get chatted up". It's her problem due to her (perhaps understandably) low self-esteem. This, however, could be overcome had the second reason not reared its ugly head. This being, I imagine (being as you rated her a 5 and said you only wanted to practice) you weren't attracted to her one bit. So there you are, clearly only interested in boosting your own ego by getting a girl to talk to you under the pretence that you're interested in her. She would've sensed it all over you. Hence, she was particularly dismissive. She could've been ruder, I think she showed considerable restraint.

3) Leading on from point 2) - don't think of these people as "practice". They are real people with real feelings, even ugly or fat girls, and deserve to be treated as such. In future, try to concentrate on people you genuinely find attractive - your chatting them up will be a lot more congruent and they will react better. It won't work out the first few dozen times you try to chat them up, but eventually you'll get it. Don't think you have to practice on some uggos before moving on to the hot babes. Not only are they a completely different kettle of fish to deal with, but you need to accept that whilst it'll take a lot of rejections before you get it right, there are loads of babes out there. Don't be worried about "using up" all the hot girls trying to get it right. They're ten a penny.

4) This is a broad point relating to the whole interaction. You felt that you needed to come up with a cool story to show her how awesome you are. Not necessary. In fact, this did you a disservice - you struggled to come up with "decent material" rather than being honest and authentic.

5) A word on negs. Decidedly uncool. I don't blame you for employing one, after all that's the way MM teaches. Most of us have employed them at some point in our pick-up development and subsequently realised our mistake. Taking value from someone with a neg is an inherently low-value thing to do. Bullying is a particularly extreme form of negging, and bullies are at the other end of the scale from awesome, centred alphas.

There. Rant over. Apologies if it was a little harsh, but I'm all about the tough love. Plus I've got my finals on Monday and am obviously looking for every conceivable way to avoid revision. Back to the grind I suppose...

Hustler25 07-05-2010 11:45 PM

Eh, come on, where's his praise for his second attempt with the '7' and '9'...I think he did well there!

Wordsworth, can we see a picture of this legendry gash-magnet-of-a-jumper?

Sack off anything you don't find attractive mate, it's really not worth your time. I learnt this the hard way by confidently approaching sets for practice I thought I would 'Ace' (how naieve) but was ultimately met with a barrage of abuse. These girls love nothing more than tearing guys to pieces, it's a blood-sport to them. They are below you, they know this so they like to knock you down a couple of pegs to get an ego boost.

CovertOperation 08-05-2010 02:58 PM

My best mate Jack always wears big wooly jumpers and a tatty old farmer's coat he found in a charity shop. Yet he is about the coolest person I know. Its just his style, its just how he dresses. He doesn't do it to impress, or to get attention. He just likes going to charity shops, buying a bag full of stuff for a fiver, and then managing to look a million times better than I do in my £80 Armani hoodie (and I've seen girls open him loads of times based purely on what he's wearing. How many other people do you see on crowded, sweaty dancefloors in a thick red jumper and a heavy green farmer's coat?)

My point being - wear whatever you feel comfortable in. Don't worry about what other people think about it. And I'll echo Blanca about not wearing something to seek a reaction. Be yourself, and girls will be much more attracted to that than any item of clothing.

marked1 09-05-2010 05:40 AM

My friend who is a natural wore a freemantle dockers shirt (Australian rules football) when we were walking round Melbourne. This caused him to be opened by a couple of hot chicks. If you go to a club in fancy dress, chicks will open you and also be more receptive to your approach if you are in party mode and approach them. I think if you wear it and you get some extra attention without being try hard, theres nothing wrong with that really. If you go out using it as a one dimensional opener to make it ok for you to approach girls then its gonna be detrimental.

Fox 10-05-2010 08:20 PM

on a serious note,
tell me more about this jumper, where did you get it?


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