Stripper Game - Need Help

[Golden_Eye]

OK guys, I have had 4 attempts at stripper game.

The first attempt I was swarmed by exotic dancers. They all came to me one by one. Soon as they asked for a dance I didnt know how to continue so I just said "Im not in that headspace right now". Then they left. I noticed my wingman was just reframing the situation and not jumping through their hoops.

Second attempt: Not approached by that many dancers. Was approached twice, managed to avoid the hoop but still sort of froze. Was same location as before about 3 weeks later.

Third attempt: Only approached by one dancer, maybe I should start to pretend to be needy or something. Managed to stay chatting for a good 20 minutes whilst blowing off the dance offers.

Fourth Attempt: Only the other week. Again, not approached really, just ignored. One dancer finally came to me. I managed to build a connection with her, got her to tell me about her child hood and her hopes and dreams. My wingman (different one) asked her out and got a bit needy. She hugged me for protection (I think) whilst backing away from him.

Anyway, my questions:

Best time to goto a Strip Bar with the intent of bouncing a dancer to another bar or to my bed or her bed (not fussed what bed to be honest). Ive been going in early on 10ish, which is probably to early.

How to initiate the bounce without coming across as needy. These dancers did not learn game they were born into it. They are the F**king Matrix.

How to get their attention so they actually approach me?

Any help would be appreciated.

[dan300]

When a stripper approaches you it's just for your money. That's their job.

Notice the way the leave when you say you're not interested in a dance?

Unless you're Bradley Cooper or Gerard Butler the chances of a stripper approaching you with sex on her mind are pretty low.

You could of course be a super rich multi-millionaire who could be their sugar daddy & provide them with everything they want, allowing them to escape the seedy job they probably hate, effectively "saving" them.

Aside from that I imagine the chances are slim.

To be fair I've never been to a strip club because we ain't got none in Ireland. But I'm under no illusion about the whole system & how it operates.

Personally I think the idea of strip clubs & getting dances is fucking retarded in many ways. Not the girls, they're doing what they gotta do blah blah. But the men who go there to spend £20 a time on a three minute dance..... Why the fuck would you torture yourself by paying gorgeous sexy women to writh around on you grinding & whatever else, & not get to stick your dick in her? It's stupid, unless you're super rich & have money to burn.

I have had girls perform my own private stripteases & lap dances for me. I've never had a dance in a strip club but I'd bet it's much more satisfying when you can grab the girl after & fuck them over the table.

[Stein]

How is your game with regular girls? If your game isn't spot on with girls who are you for the purpose of fun and meeting people you're almost certain to have trouble with gaming girls who are working.

Also why even bother? What's so special about strippers as opposed to other hot girls?

[Golden_Eye]

Originally Posted by Stein

How is your game with regular girls? If your game isn't spot on with girls who are you for the purpose of fun and meeting people you're almost certain to have trouble with gaming girls who are working.

Also why even bother? What's so special about strippers as opposed to other hot girls?

A) They have good game, you can learn from them.
B) After seeing strippers, normal "Hot Girls" dont seem so hot as they are not half naked crawling around a stage, so I find them easier to approach.
C) Its a good way to practice frame control, I can hold the conversation longer and longer before they suggest a dance, and I like to reframe it and keep them talking, it actually helps my game.
D) Most of all I enjoy talking to dancers, dont ask me why, I just find it fun, everyone has their fantasies.

[Stein]

You didn't answer the main question. Only the aside.

How is your game in general? Are you getting laid regularly? Master the basic armbar before you attempt the flying gogoplata.

[Golden_Eye]

Originally Posted by Stein

You didn't answer the main question. Only the aside.

How is your game in general? Are you getting laid regularly? Master the basic armbar before you attempt the flying gogoplata.

No my main sticking point is getting into seduction. Its not so much what to do, its me holding myself back staying in my comfort zone.

I can get into comfort and see she is interested but I just dont act on it.

Im more aware of this now though than I used to be.

[Stein]

Okay, well you aren't really anywhere then.

The first thing you need to do is drop this M3 model stuff. It's dated, rigid, unadaptive and it doesn't work.

Second, I'm assuming that this stripper thing is a consequent of all this mystery/Neil Strauss shit. Unless you live in Vegas it's dumb. Think about it. You aren't getting laid with regular girls and you're trying to bounce girls who are working, have a financial interest in sexually teasing money out of you and get hit on constantly as part of their job. Plus like Jaz said, these girls are mental. I dated a girl for a while who ended up stripping and she had the emotional stability of a bag of rats in a burning meth lab. Not fun.

If you really have high standards as far as that goes hit up some high end might clubs in London first. Those girls might be mental but at least they're not working.

[Uber]

I work as a stripper and stuff and it's definitely true they're really only interested in your money - they're there to work and earn, talking to 'customers' is just a means to an end. That doesn't mean you can't pull a girl who happens to be a stripper of course but just not when she's in he place of work. Interestingly enough I did once meet a stripper at a lap dancing club in Manchester and she suggested I take her number - she texted me there and then so I had it - I reckon she liked the fact that I wasn't too keen and didn't have a dance etc. It's only after I left the club that I realised "hey I've got a strippers number" and then I texted her a compliment and came across keen...you're probably all wise enough to know that she never responded ha ha.