Sticking points

[Jay101]

its been awhile since I've posted on here. still been reading all you guys posts when i have time.

last time i was here i there i was asking advice on approach. which i still don't do that often and i may need to work on in future, but right now I'm okay with where am at.

but I've hit a couple of sticking points recently. first one is i get a girls number, and start talking to them on whatsapp, and shit just drys up. like i try arrange a meet but if they flake they just sit there, or the meet is so far away that i run out of shit to talk to them about till that date.

the second one is i work in central london, i see lots of sexy business/tourist type girls to and from work everyday. the business girls are normally older than me, tried approach one last week got a good response but told i was too young and the tourist ones are either in large groups or language barrier

any help or suggestions?

[Shahanshah]

Be more detailed. No one can give you advice for why its drying up as there's nothing to go on.

Approach more, doing one approach or minimal approaches doesn't really mean anything. Hell I've had bad months of constant shit worse than that!

Get more numbers, even if you were detailed, the fact there's so few means its hard to point anything out. Even if four girls have flaked you, that doesn't mean much in the big scheme of things. You could get five numbers on a night out, and it could be the 5th one that meets you.

It usually comes down to that for most people; approaching more/closing more (Going for it). Or at least its the main issue, from what I've seen on here.

[Jay101]

im not worried about approaching i mean, I'm not perfect at it. but its not my main focus right now.

i need advice on keeping girls engaged on whatsapp, till i actually get to see them. My problem is i get a girls number, all goes well. start talking on whatsapp have a decent conversation with them arrange a date to meet up. then it all goes dead in-between the time i set up the meet to the date we are meant to meet.

and the other point was that when I'm near my workplace i always see older woman i wanna approach but have no experience approaching or success when i do. i think its down to the fact i look young.

[top-hat]

I presume one girl just stopped talking to you so you came here looking for advice on that. Get more numbers by doing approaches, so you know what to do. If you have an abundance of phone numbers it'd be much easier knowing how to proceed because of the practice on your belt.

[Shahanshah]

Originally Posted by Jay101

im not worried about approaching i mean, I'm not perfect at it. but its not my main focus right now.

i need advice on keeping girls engaged on whatsapp, till i actually get to see them. My problem is i get a girls number, all goes well. start talking on whatsapp have a decent conversation with them arrange a date to meet up. then it all goes dead in-between the time i set up the meet to the date we are meant to meet.

and the other point was that when I'm near my workplace i always see older woman i wanna approach but have no experience approaching or success when i do. i think its down to the fact i look young.

Yeah but you said you don't do it that often yourself which means you could probably solve the problem itself by learning by doing or just the fact you increase your odds.

If you want help then you need to be DETAILED about what was said, how you met them, the time scale. Actually uploading the convo might help, might make you a bit self-conscious but that is a way for people to help.

Anyway you're sticking point is not doing it enough. What do you means 'goes dead' anyway, does she stop replying after she flakes? Do you run out of what to say? It just gets boring? Approach more and get more numbers.

[Jay101]

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

Yeah but you said you don't do it that often yourself which means you could probably solve the problem itself by learning by doing or just the fact you increase your odds.

If you want help then you need to be DETAILED about what was said, how you met them, the time scale. Actually uploading the convo might help, might make you a bit self-conscious but that is a way for people to help.

Anyway you're sticking point is not doing it enough. What do you means 'goes dead' anyway, does she stop replying after she flakes? Do you run out of what to say? It just gets boring? Approach more and get more numbers.

Okay I'm gonna give the most detailed account of what recently happened (and has happened a number of times over the past few months)

I went out to a bar with some friends last week, having great time and all that.
Got 3 numbers on that night, all of them seemed cool.
Next day 2 of them whatsapp'd me had great convo, lots of jokes, banter, flirting. I arrange a date with girl no.1 which says she's busy but she might be free on Tuesday, she will give me a call. After that convo she messaged me the next morning I didn't have much to talk bout convo went dead (I stopped replying) messages her the next day got a few replies then she stopped replying. Tuesday come and gone no message. Girl no.2 messaged me the day after I got her number spoke on whatssapp till late, then she phoned me. Spoke for 1hr had phone sex, telling me how she wants to fuck. Tried arranging a date but both our schedules don't match, so I said next week maybe. Had few convos on whatssapp but same issue running out of things to talk bout, even talking bout sex is getting boring (prefer less talk more action). Girl no.3 never got my number like the others and I havnt messaged her yet.

But I guess your right if I keep approaching more girls, I will increase my odds.

[Shahanshah]

Ahh that's good! You say on the day of the date she didn't reply. That's when you have to arrange, follow up on her for the date. Also you don't have to keep the conversation constant and you can leave it for a few days.

And about the phone sex and shit, IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, those girls who go OTT over text, snapchat, phone always seem to be the ones who flake or whatever. Maybe they feel to nervous to meet someone sober on a first date (Which girls always hate, at least beforehand) after having all that happen with you. Its always the ones who are, and when I am, most casual, with a little flirt here and there. Who knows if that's actually the reason or not but it seems to be with me.

So yeah, all I can see is you need to follow up a bit harder on the day, and realise you done have to constantly keep up a conversation over text. It can be left for a day, two days, depending on when the date is going to be. IMO

[Shahanshah]

Btw, if you're getting three numbers in a night, that is pretty good actually if you're out on a regular basis. Often on this site we get people saying similar stuff to your post and it means they once asked a girl where the toilets were when they were wasted and accidentally got a number.

[Jay101]

Yeah your right I shouldn't have to constantly keep up conversation, but they keep messaging me. So I either engage or ignore them.

And thanks I do pretty well on nights out, but I don't regularly go out. I try go out at least twice a month.