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Cenzy 22-02-2009 11:32 AM

Need help asap. can i fix what i may have messed up ?
 
ok guys so basically, last night i was sarging with my pals, and this girl approached me so i turned to see her face and she was about an 8 so i thought hey why not, so i played the game she was interested i was garenteed everything fell into place so perfect now when i was dancing with her i did notice a couple of times this 9 was looking at me dancing with this 8, but then i look up just before i go to k close this chick and i see this tall blonde 9 staring, i mean she was just green with envy, so cut a long story short i ditched the 8 because i was just too confident that i would soon be bagging up this 9,
everything was going perfect she needed a bit of negging and the ioi's were pouring out, then i just amused her with a bit of magic and we danced , now i had the chance to k close her and for some odd reason of which i dont know, i didnt take it, and from that point on i just was unable to k close her, im sure shes interested, but can i still save this and if so how ?, ive got her facebook, i really dont want to let this girl slip any help would be appreciated

cenzy

Ambitious 22-02-2009 08:16 PM

I'm nowhere near as experienced as some of the guys here but my experience of getting FB's and #'s are that they are basically a receipt.

It's likely the moment has gone with her, if it was going to happen it probably would've had to have been that night...

Imo the best thing here would be a message along the lines of you going out with friends on Friday/Saturday night, Is she going out, and where... Then try a indirect meet-up ie with all of you together and then start over from A2 if your using MM, remind her how you are and then kino escalate from there.

Good Luck though and let us know how you get on

Ambitious

Cenzy 22-02-2009 09:34 PM

ok dude cheers for the help., basically i met her through friends and well im pretty confident il see her out this week if not definatly on the weekend, so if i start over with her, your saying theres a chance it could work ?

cenzy

Cenzy 22-02-2009 09:45 PM

ok dude cheers for the help., basically i met her through friends and well im pretty confident il see her out this week if not definatly on the weekend, so if i start over with her, your saying theres a chance it could work ?

cenzy

Amazing 22-02-2009 10:48 PM

Here's a plan that might work! I'm a novice too so if what I say is wrong please someone correct me, I wont be insulted!
Facebook! BIG DANGER of JGF's in my eyes if not played correctly! Get some of your PUA friends to post on your wall that you are needed for that night out! Let her see your calibre! Let her see you are a leader of menand pre selected by women! example!

This is how I played Facebook and Match.com!
Cuttng a long story short!

Secured a date with a girl from match.com! now beforeyou all start shouting "cheat!" here me out!
The opener was "so what do you think about that?!"
The reply was "Think about what??? xxx"

Anyway, we arranged a date on Tuesday for Friday! Girls love facebook! So on Tuesday I posted on my status....Anthony has a date on friday and can't decide between Brut or old spice!!?"
My normal mates posted comments like "use bleach" or "Sex panther" and 1 ex girl friend also commented on it wich showed I was pre seleced!
Wednesday I sent here a friends request! (important) The status was writen prior to the friend req!
She accepted the friends req and belive me girls will pick through your profile! So the photo rutine is better on facebook than anywhere else!
Anyway the last comment was by here!
"niether ;-) x"

Got sex close that night from Match!

Facebook can show a lot about a person! if you only have russian girls on your friends list their not going to look at you twice! If you have mates taking the piss out you, girls leaving messages on your wall and that kind of thing it can show many of the points of attraction! But I recomend getting the advice off a pro on this! I don't want to mess your game!!!

Double O 23-02-2009 09:28 AM

Cenzy, the best thing you can do is learn from the experience what did you do that went well and where was the mental block, what stopped you from closing the deal with her? then move on...

Don't be too hung up on this one particular woman.... What happened to the 8? I would have closed on her and tested the water to see if she was bi-sexual or open to the idea THEN AND ONLY THEN would I have moved onto the 9 by doing this you would have shown that you are the AMOG and have high status and value. You may even have been able to get a little 3some going, but this is my thing I only intererested in bi-sexual women.

I don't do FB or anything else other than moby numbers and even here I have my own PUA hotline that I only use for HB's to call on. FB and other social sites are too public and you don't want to give too much free stuff away.

I would put both women out of your mind and just go out next week with no expectations at all. OH and if you are in the field for 8's and 9's I would like to say thanks for leaving all the 10's for me :bedfuck:

russianbear 23-02-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Double O (Post 898)
Cenzy, the best thing you can do is learn from the experience what did you do that went well and where was the mental block, what stopped you from closing the deal with her? then move on...

Don't be too hung up on this one particular woman.... What happened to the 8? I would have closed on her and tested the water to see if she was bi-sexual or open to the idea THEN AND ONLY THEN would I have moved onto the 9 by doing this you would have shown that you are the AMOG and have high status and value. You may even have been able to get a little 3some going, but this is my thing I only intererested in bi-sexual women.

I don't do FB or anything else other than moby numbers and even here I have my own PUA hotline that I only use for HB's to call on. FB and other social sites are too public and you don't want to give too much free stuff away.

I would put both women out of your mind and just go out next week with no expectations at all. OH and if you are in the field for 8's and 9's I would like to say thanks for leaving all the 10's for me :bedfuck:

Sadly, this is true. Double O pounds the shit out of 10s. I remember this one time we were staying at a cheap motel on the road in the midwest of the U.S. He met a, not even a 10, but like an 11 or 12. He was banging her on his bed while I "slept" on mine. Anyhow, she asked him to put on a condom, or, as we call them in the ghetto, a jimmy hat. He told her, in his best Texas impression, "Baby, I go bareback." She did put in a request for him to pull out. Anyhow, he's hitting that shit, different positions, even at one point he was hitting her from behind, I got up, had her suck my dick while he ploughed her, then "went back to sleep" (I sleep fucked her). Anyhow, he's on top of her, grunting away, and she says, "What the fuck are you doing?" He replies, in the queen's English, "I'm filling up your gas tank, baby." I nearly pissed my pants laughing.

Cenzy 23-02-2009 03:50 PM

cheers guys i appreciate it, yeah i just think i was gutted because she was so nice, but really im quite happy that what i did was right and how it all run so smoothly.

the only thing i can think that caused me to just stall was that her friend who was a 4 was so jealous ( not it a spiteful way) and i just remember her there always trying to turn me and the 9 being a 2 set to me the 9 and her into a three set so maybe i guess worrying about her messin it up and i guess i took my eye off of the ball. but hey theres next week ?

thanks again guys i really appreciate it


cenzy

russianbear 23-02-2009 04:03 PM

Cenzy,
I play poker. Not those tournaments you see on t.v., cash games. There is no winning and losing. There are winning players and losing players. You see, I can sit down at a table, make nothing but the right decisions for three hours straight, and still be down for that session. I can go sit down, make a lot of mistakes, and still be up for the session. The point is, it's about making the right moves, the right decisions, doing things right. As a result, overall I am a winning player. Over the course of thousands of sessions I have won more than I have lost. I never think about that, however, when I'm actually playing the game.. That's thinking in terms of results, not the process. It's the process that is the most important.

Sorry guys, this was my feeble attempt at using a metaphor to drive home a point.

Cenzy 23-02-2009 04:12 PM

so are you saying its best when im playing the game to not think about the result just on making the right decisions at that specific time ?

Cenzy 23-02-2009 04:13 PM

like i became worried about that girl messing up the ' result' when all i should have been worried about was making that k close which was the right decision, making worrying about her friend was the wrong decision ?

russianbear 23-02-2009 05:22 PM

Yes. When you approach, just have a playful, curious state. Get to know her. Nothing is better for rapport than that. Think, "I want to get to know this woman. Find out what she's like, etc." Not, "Damn, I want to fuck her brains out." That would be results-oriented thinking.

Cenzy 23-02-2009 05:39 PM

cheers dude, and everyone else, i mean i had joined another pua website and i never got as positive feedback and helpful feed back like you guys so i do appreciate it

cenzy

russianbear 23-02-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cenzy (Post 912)
cheers dude, and everyone else, i mean i had joined another pua website and i never got as positive feedback and helpful feed back like you guys so i do appreciate it

cenzy

It's because Double O and I are master hypnotists. We don't fuck around, we go right after the vag and pound it.

Cenzy 23-02-2009 09:19 PM

haha siiccckk

russianbear 24-02-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cenzy (Post 920)
haha siiccckk

What's sick about pounding pussy?

If that's sick, then it's a sick world and I'm a happy man.

Cenzy 24-02-2009 04:21 PM

i meant sick in a good way haha

russianbear 24-02-2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 938)
hahahaha Major self-contradiction there bro. Loves it.

I think you should always be thinking how you want to take the girl home tonight.

Peace

I disagree. In the back of my mind I do have an outcome in mind, which is this: :bedfuck: I can get away with this. I don't have the same hang ups as noobs do. Not putting down the noobs, just pointing this out.

However, initially I don't approach her with the thought in my mind, "What do I need to do to fuck her." Why? Because first I want to do a couple of things: Find out if she has anything between her ears (brains and a British accent are very sexy to me). If she has corncobs between her ears then it may not be worth my time. I want to develop deep rapport with her, so I ask her questions that get to the core of her being to accomplish this. If I was only thinking about sticking my dick in her, this wouldn't happen.

Let me know if I made myself clear, if the distinction is clear. If not, I'll be hapy to polish my thoughts up.:bukkake:

Double O 25-02-2009 11:09 AM

Yeah I think what he is saying is "trust in the force Luke" and game on

russianbear 25-02-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Double O (Post 960)
Yeah I think what he is saying is "trust in the force Luke" and game on

Sort of. What I mean is, the game is played in the field. In order to pound vag, you have to go after it with purpose. However, that doesn't mean that while you are having a conversation you are hung up on fucking her. You don't even know her yet!!!! She may be dead on the inside. That's why, in the beginning of your interaction, you need to have a playful, curious state while you begin the sarge. You can....and will....turn up the heat later.

russianbear 26-02-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 997)
I'm the same, Jaz. I'll be engrossed in conversation. Suddenly, I cut off & go alert like a meerkat & think 'I wanna fuck that all over!' I have the most success & the best fun when I maintain this state throughout the interaction.

RB. I have a list of deal-breakers too. Though I want the heat on from begining to end. She may be boring etc. Until I know I give her the benefit of the doubt.
Peace


If this is true, I would love to know what kind of results you're getting because women have incredible sensory acuity and will pick up on this. Not good. I cannot adequately express just how crucial it is to control your state.

russianbear 26-02-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 1035)
Good! I want them to pick up on this.

You come from one school of PU (SS, MM, canned, indirect etc.), I come from another school of PU (Gunwitch, Juggler, RSD, improvised, natural, direct etc.).

I've studied and tested both. Each style gets results, for sure.

I prefer the authentic route.

Peace


Not saying it can't be done. One of the guys I sarge with is like this and he gets blown out a lot more often than he gets blown. I have more frequent closes than he does and of better quality.

Oddly enough he is a salesman in my dealership as well and I outsell his ass too.


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