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Originally Posted by Jaz
Grow up boys. Can you try to articulate yourselves a little better if you would like to refute Hydro instead of just, having a go?
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Well my refutation was implied in my having a go. The challenge makes no sense. Here's why.
I generally take the idea of being 'present' or 'in the now' to be poorly defined pseudo spiritual bullshit term that's been adopted by the pickup community thanks to RSD. I place it along with terms like 'state', 'momentum' and 'self actualization'. Subjective, poorly defined and generally more harmful than useful.
The challenge is to be in the present moment for the whole time every time you go out on a date right?
Okay. But the thing is people are hard wired to draw on previous experience and consider future scenarios when making decisions. It's a survival mechanism. So the challenge is to shut off one of our most basic mechanisms for decision making.
How? The challenge makes it sound like deciding to wear a new pair of jeans, whereas the challenge is more like me saying 'Every time you go out wit a girl, try to not blink. You're so used to (and dependent on) blinking that you're bound to do it, and what's worse, you're going to constantly be thinking about not blinking which will make you not want to blink. The idea of consciously trying to be in the moment and not being in your own head will backfire, and throw you into your head even more.
And to what extent? I'm quite reliant on past experiences in my decision making thank you very much. The logical extreme is I'm so in the moment that I forget my previous experiences of what drinks I like and order a WKD instead of a lager. And there I'll be on my date, sitting there looking like a twat. A lot of my dates etc go really well because they're positively influenced by my previous experience doing stuff like that. Past experiences and gauging future scenarios can be a very useful thing to do, and to me deciding to be completely in the present all the time just to be more flirty and pay more attention to a girl seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water.
A simpler, less pretentious, less stupid way to paraphrase what people generally seem to mean in
PUA by 'be present' or 'be in the now' would just be 'chill the fuck out, there's nothing to worry about'. That's a decent principle to apply when you're out with a girl.