Opinions Please! :)

[SuperStevie]

Hey everyone,

Recently just joined the forum and thought I would want a opinion on a subject that means abit to me. I'm 25yo of 6ft 2 built and will be honest, probably overweight! lol.

Anyways, here's the scenario:

A few weeks ago I was introduced by a friend of mine who I used to work with and have kept in contact with since we were both made redundant (female, but nothing would of come of it as we're too much like 'Bro/Sis' relationship and always have been) to someone recently. Instantly I had a attraction with her friend she introduced me too for the first time about 3 weeks ago.. She's cute and we have a LOT of similar interests (music type, tv shows, cooking etc). The reason we were introduced is because over the summer months there will be a group of us going to various music festivals, concerts, weekends away and have normally used WhatsApp to communicate with one another, so my friend thought it would be cool to meet beforehand

Anyways, here's a breakdown of what's happened so far:

1st time of meeting her (Early-Mid June):
Round my friends house, bit of a movie night, shared pizza, all watching TV in same bed just goofing about and stuff. Asked things such as how everyone met one another and stuff.. Standard first time introductions.

2nd time (about a week later):
New bar opened up with live music and cheap drinks and stuff. A group of us went out included both people mentioned previously. I was sober for the night but everyone else was drinking due to work commitments. Regardless the person I'm interested in, like everyone else had a few drinks so I kinda played the sensible one where I was keeping a eye on people.. to a extent. Physical contact was made though means of hugging, high 5's and we were both having fun... She already told me that she had problems with her neck so I was said 'Here, sit down and let me try something' and proceeded massaged her neck to which she greatly appreciated... Looking back though, this could of been a good point to maybe make a move as we were away from everyone else for a good 20-30mins but I didn't want to take advantage of the girl in those circumstances due to her drinking.

3rd Meet-up (1st July):
So I went round my friend's house who I used to work with again to drop off a few things I borrowed and she was there again as they were planning on going round her house for your typical girly night in. I was only planning to drop something off to my friend but I was then invited to join in as they were making mexican food (one way to get straight to my heart lol), so I accepted the invitation. I helped out with the cooking with the girl in question while my friend relaxed watching TV in the front room. We made EPIC food lol. Just a nice chilled out atmosphere and had a good chat.

Anyways, those the only 3 times I've been able to see her in person physically... but we've all been communicating through the means of WhatsApp to organise these events we're all going too and through that the girl I like actually texted me saying 'Hi, its ***** ... Our friend **** has passed out.. I think our food killed her!' after the 3rd meet-up...

Over the last few days though, especially last night she was feeling abit down with herself after a night out with the girls in which she felt abit upset with some of the events of the night and said on a fb status 'it's not nice being told your unattractive by guys'... I've openly said to her well I disagree with that and have told her she's beautiful. Got a thank you and a 'your being too nice too me' (i hate that.. no offence) but I think she's just low in self-esteem, especially when about 3 months ago she's said there was a 5 year relationship that ended nastily and feeling pretty hard on herself.

Anyways, I know its been a long read but I'm curious to opinions from people on where to go from here... The first big event we're going to is exactly 2 weeks from now (group of 4.. me, my female friend from old workplace, my interest and someone else.. friends of both who I haven't met before)... Would it be wise to wait until there before making any form of move (it is gonna be a special night for sure from a event standpoint) or shall I run the risk of initiating a move earlier (asking her to see if she's free beforehand to do something) and running the risk of her saying no and potentially ruining the event...

Thanks people!

[Lovefish]

Well my opinion is you may have left it 2 late to not be friend zoned now (not fucked by end of third meet usually means this). The best time would have been massaging her neck. You`ve had a few opportunities to just go for it and should have. All may not be lost yet tho. Personally I would suggest ringing her (preferably) or text chat shoot the shit for a bit then say hey im going out to (quiet pubs name here) you should come a join me. Say it like your already going and inviting her is a second though cos your on the phone to her. This way you wont have all your other m8s etc in the way, you've got you social proof from them, you now need to isolate.Plus sitting about for two weeks will make things go very cold, if I pull I wanna re hook up with them within 3 days so im still fresh in their memory.Then go for it, kino , chat, shoot the shit, tease. Go for it if it doesn't work out it wont fuck your event up if your like hey I like women I like you, you didn't wanna so what it wont spoil this for me, if you make it awkward it will be.
Don't call girls "beautiful" unless you've just fucked em. Straight compliments look chump and they usually never believe you anyways.
You need to go out and talk to more girls m8, focusing on this one girl could be your undoing this time, I wish you luck have a go and get back to us with the results