topic 1/2: 'word on the street is, you've read the game' - taking on students?

[picard]

... 'word on the street is, you've read the game'

...an opener used on me, buy a shy, timid looking guy who i've seen around before. never before has he even looked at me, let alone started a conversation with me.

Now, before getting into the nitty-gritty. Bit of background...

As i've posted before, i have had recent success with women, and tbh, i owe it all to the game! the book 'the game' or more specifically 'the rules of the game'.

Some people will say that it was more about me myself, but reading those books unlocked the character in me i needed to succeed with women.



so im on a pub-crawl in hertfordshire and this guy, who i've seen around 'friend of a friend' says to me "word on the street is, you've read the game"

i have two reactions:

1 - i reply positively and say 'yes i have etc etc'

2 - who told him this, which one of my few mates i let in on the game, has been talking about ME and THE GAME.!?!? [post 2/2]

i proceed first with a postivie review. I've seen this guy around. He is shy, timid, nervous looking, sort of guy i wouldnt want to be in a conversation with myself. However, for this guy to ask me this question (bearing in mind ive seen him 10-20 times before at house-parites etc, without talking to him) he opens with a question about the Game. I admire his assirtiveness and acknowledge the fact he is interested....

I can't help but WANT to tell him how good it is?!

before i continue with the story/ideas il briefly say this post is all about "IVE HAD SUCCESS WITH P.U.ARTISTRY DUE TO THE GAME, BUT SHOULD I TAKE ON A STUDENT AND SHOW HIM THE WAYS?"

im having good regular success, i got myself regular appointments with gaming, without being too oni-ties ish. I really want a new challenge and think i could help this guy with being his perosonal mentor in guiding him through the game....

I told him the basics, i told him about discipline, i told him that he cant EXPECT stuff to happen without EFFORT going in! i also told him about my success, and how i live by the game now-adays!...

I captivated him with my stories, and told him i'l show him routines.

he was attentive and thankful, he really DESERVES this help....

I went on to demonstrate the shady friend / rings routine and the newly found 'custard' routine. (thanks to: kowalski) and all three were successful. i could have followed these routiens up, but i didnt, for the beenfit of demonstraiton purposes!

i really feel like this guy would definately benefit from me helping him.

Should i do it?

If so...

What would be best?

How can i help him?

Does anybody have experience in this teaching field?


Thanks in advance,

Picard Out.

[Blanca]

It's a good opportunity for both of you.

The lad is clearly ready to embark upon a PUA journey, and as someone who has had good success with game so far, clearly looks up to you. Not only is it his opportunity to learn from you, but it's also a good opportunity to reinforce your skills. Teaching someone else is one of the best ways of learning something. Be careful not to fall into the "Faux Natural" category that Jaz had a rant about a while back (have a search, it's around here somewhere).

I'd just go out sarging with him and lead by example. Don't be too willing to give out details - the more detail you go into with regards to talking to girls, the more he'll go into his head and overthink things. Say stuff like "Just open with a compliment then start conversation from there. Say whatever you like - she'll be attracted to the fact that you had the balls to approach her in the first place".

Make sure the lad enjoys himself and that you both get equal amounts of value out of it by winging each other and spurring each other on to approach girls. As someone who, on his first night of proper sarging, suffered crippling AA, I can't tell you how encouraging it is to have a more experienced PUA looking over your shoulder offering advice and making sure you push yourself.

I say get the guy on board. He seems like, with time, he'd make a good wingman and that's a good relationship to have.

[Red]

"I'm a member of this forum, right, and this new guy came on, and he was like asking for advice and stuff. I've never met this guy before right, but I thought, I might be able to help him. When I was a new guy on the forum all these other guys helped me. Thing is, I don't know if I want to reply to this guys post. "

Obviously I'm being sarcastic, but I think you answered your own question. Can I ask, why wouldn't you want to share it with him?

[picard]

alright sound,

im just wondering if perhaps im being a bit too forward with myself, i dont want to put myself onto a pedestal or anything. Yes i've had some success, but that doesn't make me a guru by all accounts, just thinking about how much this dude could benefit from me helping him etc.

i read the 'faux natural' post Jaz made. This is perhaps why im apprehensive about doing this, as i can already see myself displaying some FN traits, which aren't entirely desireable, that and i want to try and create a level playing field and a pressure-free environment for teaching the guy to sarge, rather than being Master Jedi and Padawan....

this guy has all the classic characteristics of an early AFC. he's not bad looking, and is very well educated and an interesting person, but i think he needs to reframe himself, and get over AA, which we already diagnosed was his biggest problem. I approached a 2 set with him just observing, then after openeing brought him into the conversation, he had a smile on his face, and actually, spoke up and put a few words in, having known what the opener was going to be. The two girls we opened reacted very well, and later on in the evening, came by and said hello again etc.... gave me quite a feeling of satisfaction knowing i was helping.

[legend]

Hey Picard,
Im not sure what the problem is....! If someone needs your help with whatever knowledge you have to impart, just do it, why the dilemma? You are apprehensive just in case you sound aloof, up your own arse...unless you do it, you wont know. There's a different between being awesome and being arrogant (faux natural), only you can differentiate whether you are arrogant or not but I wont worry too much about it. You will know within you. I see people like Jaz, Kowalski, Anthony, Jynx, Swype, Sync, MFI, Sapmi, Darood always willing to help in the field, and never once I think these guys are arrogant....!
Good luck!!

[Shark]

Picard - when I first started out I too read the books and realised what 'magic' they contained, but unless I had my Sarging buddy with me who was experienced I would never had gone out here and tried any of it. I say get out there, Wing him - and he will learn from you because you seem to be getting results. If it helps have a few 'sessions' where you talk about different terms you might use in the field, few openers/routines etc he can go away and practise and then have a mini-debrief after each set / each night to steer him in the right direction. It's only one step further than him asking questions and here and you giving advice, so I say go for it. And bring him along here to say hi to us all :-)