Chode Of The Week!
 

The winner this week is:

Adrian Chiles.

The 'Sorry Adrian, You're Not The One' Show: Christine Bleakley's romance with Frank Lampard | Mail Online

Anyone been in this situation before? I have. This a reminder, for all men, what the chode mentality will bring you.

So what should Adrian have done? Perhaps we can email him some advice.

Red.

i am frank lampard, it was thanks to you guys i managed to swoop in and woo that fiesty little number in to bed. cheers

Hard to know what to make of it to be honest. If they were indeed an item (I'd like to think so since Adrian Chiles is an absolute hero) then it's probably more Christine Bleakley's fault that it's gone tits up. Let's be honest here. Frank Lampard is a fat cunt. He's got the charisma of a lemon, the personality of flour and the intelligence of...well, a footballer. You've seen him talk on the telly, right? Exactly. A nice chap, but about as un-alpha as it's possible to be.

My explanation here is that Bleakley has been drawn to the fact that he's a footballer, rich and (let's be fair) more attractive than Chiles. Hence, he has a lot more perceived value, especially since he can obviously get any girl he likes, even if only on a shallow level. I think it's a case of "ooooh look at the sparkly necklace and the Jimmy Choo (or whoever) shoes". All of a sudden, poor old Adrian looks a bit less of a prospect.

Now supposing they were never an item (ie they'd never slept together) then Chiles has, as suggested, been the biggest choad in the world. Ever. They hit it off brilliantly, she cadges lifts off him, goes to dinner with him and generally treats him like a friend. I bet he was a great listener when it came to her problems too. If he never slept with her, he has choaded out in a big way. Shame on you Mr Chiles, and I don't blame Christine for looking elsewhere. Just a shame she's landed another "provider male" rather than a proper lover - expensive gifts may be the way to a woman's heart but they're not the way to her pussy.

What Big Ade needs to do is stop acting like a whiny little bitch and go and pull someone else. He's certainly got the charisma and confidence to pull any girl he likes, if not the perceived value.

That's a bit harsh!
I doubt very much that he's a choad by choice. Choad behaviour like this boild down to lack of education. It makes me cringe when guys just 'dont get it' and make a fool of themselves. I really feel sorry for him as he probably thought he was in with a chance, and was shocked when it all went tits up.

To be honest guys, Lampards acted as much of a chode as Chiles here. Come on! buying her a necklace with her name on it, Jimmy Choo shoes and taking her out to the HARVESTER! Ha! he may as well be saying 'I don't really have all that much to offer within myself so instead I will buy your attention with material goods and meals out'. That is some lame shit. As Chode as this behaviour may sound to us, he gets away with it and many guys like him can get away with this behaviour wether we like it or not.

Can you really blame Christine? Here's a guy who's not only extremely wealthy but very high-profile, she's apparantly quite a savvy career minded girl so being seen on the arm of Frank Lampard is obviously going to raise her profile (good or bad) and could potentially increase her career prospects, moving on beyond the banality of 'The one show'.

Chiles should probably set his sights a little lower.

No way! Everyone should set there sites high. I've not had a chance to check the link as I'm at work, but absolute respect to anyone punching above their weight and pushing their standards if this is the case. Plus Adrian is a dude.

fair play to the guy if he boffed her he's a pretty ugly guy so he must have some game to get somewhere with her

It's understandable that i'm taking abit of flak for my comments there. I maybe feeling abit disillusioned here and I'm more than happy to be enlightened but I think looks do matter to a woman at some level and they matter more than we would like to think they do. Now before you all start throwing examples of not so attractive men seducing hot women I understand that that happens and it's great that things like that do happen.

Last night I was watching 'The one show' as it happened to be on in the background of my local pub. I got talking to the barmaid and her friend about this episode with Adrian Chiles, Christine and Frank Lampard. Neither of them had any sympathy for Chiles, they both said Christine had done well to get with Frank Lampard as he was more 'Fit'...nothing to do with his money or status they said. I said, 'Yeah well, Chiles is much more charasmatic than Lampard, i'm sure he's much more interesting to be around don't you think?'. They said that was all very well but they'd personally rate looks over personality and charisma. It was concluded that an unattractive guy with bags of charisma, personality and 'game' is better than an attractive guy with no charisma, no personality and little game but not as ideal as an attractive guy who also possesses average 'game' and charisma.

Obviously that doesn't mean all girls think like that, that's just two girls. Thankfully not all of them think in this way. However if you've ever been around girls when they're talking about a guy one of them has just met it's not uncommon for one of the first things they ask about him to be 'Is he fit?' the same way us guys do.

I remember reading an article linked on this forum regarding 'looks' and I'm pretty sure Jaz posted regarding this subject before. Anyway this article was suggesting that realistically a guy can score upto two 'Points' above him, therefore if a guy is percieved to be a 4 he can probably get 6s, a guy who's an 8 can probably score 10s etc. I don't like the whole point scoring analogy and I find the term 'HB' tacky (and guys come on, a HB6 and below is not a 'Hot Babe') but I think there's an element of truth in that.

I think we can all agree that alot of women are receptive to 'alpha behaviour', a guy who lacks in his physical appearance yet possesses good alpha traits will reap rewards. The same way a good looking guy with good 'health indicators' (symmetrical face, good physique) will flip similar attraction switches in women. Women respond to many different things as we know but 'health indicators' and 'Alpha behaviour' are two things that bring 'mates' together in the Animal Kingdom and this is really no different between humans.

If you look at many couples you will notice many of them are about as attractive as each other, alot of humans respond to people of similar physical appearance when it comes to looks. I'm not saying this is completely gospel but this sort of thing has been widely talked about in the scientific world and you can't really deny that this happens.

Back to Chiles, his problem was that he probably didn't possess the 'Alpha traits' to land someone like Christine, he probably tried to get in through the back door by treating her in a friend-like manner and so when he eventually tried to make a move he got the LJBF speech. So my reason for saying 'He should probably aim abit lower' is that at this moment in time he probably doesn't have an alpha attitude to compliment the other great qualities that he has.

As K says he's only just come out of a long term relationship so he's out of practice I guess when it comes to wooing the ladies. So my advice to him would be, aim a little lower for now son, get some successes under your belt and then let that new found growing confidence carry you through to bigger successes. That's all I was really getting at.

Why do you think they happen? It can happen, so let's all make it happen. Strength of reality is waaaay more important than a good looking guy. I know plenty of good looking guys that are crap at getting with girls. Is this not evidence that looks on a guy are a waste of time?

What does the word 'fit' mean to girls Hustler? Does it have the same connotations? I don't think so. Girls in general are not as shallow as us. Our instant attraction is 'hot babe', a girl's attraction changes like the British weather. They respond to behaviour. If a guy is initially attractive to a girl and he starts doubting himself, she'll soon loose attraction for him.


Are these couples in the media? Think about what YOU want, not what other people can or do get. Your reality is critical to your success. I also think this concept of similar good/ugly looking couples relates directly to the disillusioned male of today. He thinks he does not deserve a certain type of girl purely because is not attractive on the surface. I actually feel sorry for good looking guys now as I see they may have to work hard to get people to take them seriously as a MAN.

Be a man, not a model.

Hustler, some very valid points mate. Don't think you deserved such a bashing for them!

This is a discussion, not a bashing Tw1sted. Telling someone to set their sights lower is not acceptable advice. Saying a guy is too ugly for a pretty girl is a nonsense. This is all very defeatist for guys who are trying to push the boundaries of modern society's default position, and accepting what popular culture dictates to us through it's agressive 'quick fix' marketing.

We get sold the handsome man as 'the norm' that we should all live up to if we are to get the girl, when in practice we all follow the man with the strongest sense of belief and reality. We also get sold the 'new woman' who has power. Does she really want this position, or does she want the man to be THE MAN? Unfortunately too many men, my friends included sell out to this bullsh*t and let girls control their lives as they simply do not believe they can do any better. All because they're standards are set so low.

Just re-read Kowalski's post in this thread http://www.puaforum.co.uk/pua-genera...er-things.html

I feel alot better about it now.

Although from my own personal stand-point i'd consider myself at the moment about a '7' as a whole package including looks/personality. I will struggle and I do often struggle to hit it off with those 9s and 10s. However i'm quite happy to be getting more successes with girls at a similar attractive level to me 7s and 8s.

Say if a guy is a 4, don't you think its better for him to be reaping more successes with girls around the same physical attraction level to him say pushing upto 7s rather than constantly chasing the tail of 9s and 10s and being less successful?

If the guy has the looks of a 4 you mean? This is still selling out to the ideal of the handsome man. If the guy feels and acts like a 8 then he'll be an 8. The girl won't be able to resist the behaviours of an 8 over a handsome 4.

There is way too much emphasis in the mind of the modern man on how he looks. It's crackers if you think about it! Because of this men expect girls to chat them up, and as a result will not take action. This is the excuse for their low standards and letting girls walk all over them. They think they are supposed to be the pretty ones. This is not what men are supposed to be.

This maybe the case K, but I think that assuming or accepting this can be classed as a limiting belief. If you decide to rate yourself appearance wise at a 7, don't assume you can't do better than a 7 girl in your mind's eye. To be frank I hate all this HB rating, everyone's tastes are different. My 7 will be different to everyone else's so the whole thing is ambiguous and pointless dwelling over. Go for girls you like.

If Chiles rates a girl as a 10 and claims her for his own pleasure then fair play to the lad.

I can see this point is going nowhere fast! My point got lost a few posts ago.

I'm just argueing that as a man, you should not be concerned/worried with your looks.

Dont worry bro, you'll find your way. :bootyshake:

Excellent. I am in full agreement K!

Just coming in on the last few posts about rating yourself and going for a partner of equal 'worth'.....I am still undecided..when I go Sarging and open sets I obviously (naturally) rate each girl to find the hottest girl and to establish my target (so I can ignore and neg her) and I find myself altering my Game depending on her rating: If a girl is a HB9 then I will use a different aproach to say a HB6 - however I have recently been chatting with someone who rates all girls as a HB1 so there is 'no pressure or AA' because they are only a 1 - and so he assumes the higher status / assumes attraction because he is a 10.

Sorry to hack in on this post, but it just got me wondering on how you guys rate HBs when your Sarging and if it affects your approach / technique?

Thanks for the comemnts Kowalski; with regards to the negs etc - that's just my style of Game - I come in under the radar and am a mix of Mr Comfortable and cocky/funny so the negs and her trying to get validation to be noticed just works for me...maybe not the 'nicest' of tactics but it works for me and I never abuse the girls or their trust (see my signiture tagline) but I guess every guy plays slightly differently.

I agree with the rating system and trying to keep consistency - I tend to sub-consciously put them into rough pigeon holes so I can adjust my Game accordingly, but not as extreme as HB7.6 and the like! I often go into sets and find the first girl really stylish, the second girl really 'old fashioned' cute and the third very sexy etc and how to you pick a target from three great girls - well, I don't - I play the Game and see who excites me the most, who plays along and stimulates my mind. It is nice to finally, after all these years, have a choice of who I want to go for - not what I am left with! lol

But I think the most valuable piece of advice I take away from your post is 'every girl is probably a nice person and will want to suck me off'! lol Genius! Amen Brother :-)

I think it's because he's shit and probably won't even play anyway there are far better English left backs than him

Yeah totally agree. He's made himself to look quite pathetic, if he truly wanted to keep his dignity then he should rise above it by carrying on with his career regardless. No point crying over spilt milk.

Alot has been said in the media lately about the example footballers set to kids as role models. The John Terry scandal was one thing, but to spit your dummy out, take your ball home and say 'I'm not playing anymore' when faced with adversity is another bad example.

In the words of Mr T 'Get some nuts!!'

He's a professional footballer, he's in a priviliged position he could date practically any women he wanted and he's willing to throw it away. I've lost respect for the guy.

I hope he gives Terry a slap on Saturday.

To add to the footballer chodes I would like to submit Ashley Cole. His comment yesterday made me chuckle. Basically he is blaming his cheating behaviour on the fact that his girlfriend forced him to live with her mother at his house.

Does admitting that you are under the thumb ring a bell Ashley? It kind of sums up the blame culture we live in too.

Let's Talk About <S>Sex</S> Football, Baby...

This guy is a legend, sums it up beautifully

Loving these observations too:

Johnny Goes Ballistic About Volleys...

Viva Johnny Nic!!!

I just heard another point of view on the whole bridge/terry debate on the times football podcast and it got me thinking...

Bridge has a son, so was he thinking about his son rather than his career?

If he plays for England goes to the world cup with the media circus that follows the stories are not going to stop so he drew the line and sacrificed his chance although a slim chance of a World Cup medal.

Bridge isn't as good a player as Terry, did he take this into account with his decision? He didn't make a instant decision he took his time and concluded that the situation was unacceptable.

You can say that the player to do something should have been Terry however he persuaded his wife to forgive his affair but also to appear all happy in public with him as well. He could have stepped down from the captaincy and made a public apology but he didn't do any of this, he waited to be deposed.

We can't be sure of all the details but after seeing things another way I'm starting to think, is Bridge really such a chode? He has a son surely that's more important than kicking a ball about? Also has he actually made things easier for England and the man that wronged him (there is speculation that it went on for longer than reported).

After all the shit behaviour footballers get up to has Wayne Bridge showed he's not like the rest and been a man and taken action where others wouldn't?