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Default Diet, fasting & exercise - 10-03-2015, 11:27 PM

My new diet, at least until I lose a stone or 2 quickly, is...

Midday - bowl of cornflakes with semi-skimmed or 2 weetabix

About 4/6/8pm - a massive salad consisting of lettuce, handful of Brown pasta, handful of sweetcorn, 2 boiled eggs sliced & chopped, 2 tomatoes with the insides removed & chopped up, about 10 slices of ham chopped up & grated cheese on top, all mixed up in salad cream

I say I have the salad at 4 6 or 8 because some days I'm not able to eat it at one of the specific times so basically as long as it's after 4 but no later than 8. That way there's between 16 & 20 hours of a fast every day. I'm now aiming to do as many 20 hour fasts as I can.

I'm actually thinking the salad is too big? I know you can't see how big but it's probably 3 or 4 inches off the plate.

I'll have the odd cup of green tea with honey & lemon but not at set times. Just whenever, but not likely in the middle of the night.

I've been doing this 5 or 6 days now & apart from a fish supper on Sunday which I felt guilty about & burned off that night, I'm sticking to it with the utmost determination. More focused than I've ever been all those other times I tried & failed. This is the one where I see it through until the goal is achieved.

Oh yeah the goal - I was 13st 4lb when I started & now 13 exactly. I want to get to 11st, that's the goal. I'll have a cheat meal (probably the buffet haha) when I get to 12st.

Along with this I'm back on the punch bag because my hand is healed, which in all honesty is what held me back. I do 10 hard rounds every evening after going out for a warm up run just about half a mile around a few blocks & back. I'll increase the distance as my stamina increases.

I also spoke to a running equipment store earlier & I'll get around to joining their free running club. They run on Monday's & there's incentives to keep at it, the first being a free luminous adidas running T-shirt after 5 runs, & the girl told me a few weeks ago you're entitled to a pair of trainers after not long too, amongst other free goodies. The more you run, the more you get, they say.

I've been training really late this time around. The past few nights I'm doing 10 rounds between 11pm & midnight. Nothing wrong with that is there? It's not keeping me awake as might be assumed. I be pretty tired having been up all day from early in the morning so there's no way adrenaline pumping through my veins could keep me up.

I'm kinda liking the late training actually it feels good. And although I'm no expert, I think it means my body will burn fat like crazy all night as I sleep coupled with the fasting right?


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Default 11-03-2015, 04:33 PM

If you're fasting and only eating that few calories:

You may well lose some decent weight fairly quickly but you'll also burn out and plateau in no time.

Whenever your first meal is; make it protein and fat based. And every other meal with some carbs and absolutely load up on veg.

Pretty much all you need to know Dan.
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Default 12-03-2015, 01:30 AM

Dan, have you thought of simplifying everything that you're doing?

I don't just mean diet and exercise, but studying/pastimes/work etc. I've found that a few well-focused activities/goals work much better than trying to keep lots of plates spinning.


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Default 12-03-2015, 02:48 AM

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If you're fasting and only eating that few calories:

You may well lose some decent weight fairly quickly but you'll also burn out and plateau in no time.

Its only temporary though until I've lost 2 stone, & I'll have the odd cheat meal here & there. For example I had a pizza today at 3pm which was nice, but I felt bad after it & I haven't ate since & won't eat agin till midday which will have been over a 20 hour fast to balance it out.

Whenever your first meal is; make it protein and fat based. And every other meal with some carbs and absolutely load up on veg.

Pretty much all you need to know Dan.
I know I could do a quick google but I'm open to suggestions on what the first meal could be then. Steak & veg? Fish?

A boxer I know has salmon for breakfast & steak sometimes too. I'm not too fond of salmon but I get the idea.


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Default 12-03-2015, 02:57 AM

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Dan, have you thought of simplifying everything that you're doing?

I don't just mean diet and exercise, but studying/pastimes/work etc. I've found that a few well-focused activities/goals work much better than trying to keep lots of plates spinning.
In the past couple of weeks this has been at the forefront of my mind - that I have literally too much going on at once & yes too many plates spinning. I hate to have to drop anything but some things may simply have to at least go the back burner, like the breakdancing for example. Cool yes but not more important than doing well in exams.

I'm trying to prioritise what's important, getting these things done first, then any other stuff that's a luxury, like learning to spin around on my head, can come later.

I'm off booze until May the 2nd so I've got no excuse not to put in a solid effort in the important things. My flat gets renovated from the 26th of this month & I have to move out for 2 weeks so that's a bit of an obstacle but again, I refuse to let that be an excuse. In fact I'm actually looking forward to being in a temporary apartment for a couple of weeks as a change of scenery.


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There's not really such a thing as temporary, if the diet attempt is temporary, the results will be too. You have to implement and change habits that will remain as a consistent lifestyle adjustment.

Otherwise as soon as you stop your fasting diet and do similar things to before everything goes back.

Seeing as you do have so much on your plate in terms of various stresses, especially exams, you'd be better looking at your regular diet, prioritising what needs to change, and making those changes one at a time.

And first meal can be anything. Your body doesn't care if you've just woken up, what time it is, or how long it's been since you last ate. It just wants good nutrition, which primarily comes from your proteins and fats.
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Default 14-03-2015, 07:38 AM

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There's not really such a thing as temporary, if the diet attempt is temporary, the results will be too. You have to implement and change habits that will remain as a consistent lifestyle adjustment.

Otherwise as soon as you stop your fasting diet and do similar things to before everything goes back.

Seeing as you do have so much on your plate in terms of various stresses, especially exams, you'd be better looking at your regular diet, prioritising what needs to change, and making those changes one at a time.
When I say temporary I'm talking about the fasting itself. Nobody wants to be fasting 16-20 hours a day forever.

What I mean is that I'll continue to fast until I reach the desired weight, then go back to eating at normal times of the day, but good food not pizzas & shit that makes you fat. I never meant I'd go back to the prior food habits. Just on a cheat meal every so often.


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Default 14-03-2015, 01:58 PM

Yeah I know you meant the fasting as temporary.

And that's what I mean, fasting can be a maintainable eating structure as long as works for you and you feel good and function well with it.

If you're planning to change to another eating lifestyle later anyway, you'd be better just optimising that system to save having to put your body's digestive system through the stress of changing your entire eating structure on and off.

If you're more organised, feel better, and perform better eating regularly spaced meals: eat that way but do it in such a way as to fit your goals.
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When I say temporary I'm talking about the fasting itself. Nobody wants to be fasting 16-20 hours a day forever.

What I mean is that I'll continue to fast until I reach the desired weight, then go back to eating at normal times of the day, but good food not pizzas & shit that makes you fat. I never meant I'd go back to the prior food habits. Just on a cheat meal every so often.
Any particular reason for fasting, just easy to control intake or other reasons?

Sounds like really low cals - do you track calories and macros?

No particular food makes you fat - pizzas etc. doesn't matter how healthy or unhealthy it is. Too much pizza will make you fat but so will too much salad with eggs etc.
Love pizza,and chocolate for that matter, I just make sure it fits my goals by end of the day.

Whats the goal other than weight? To look good? Fight weight?
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