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Post SmileyK: The Journey - 24-08-2011, 11:38 AM

Tuesday 23rd August

Me and my younger brother decide to head to Leicester Sq...I'm taking him out as he's a bit strapped for cash and hasn't been out for a while. As I have discovered on previous outings, the force is strong is this one.

Have decided not to drive, the plan is to get merry and have a good time.

YATES
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At the bar I start chatting to a cutie next to me; turns out she is from Brazil, after wrongly guessing where she was from 3 times. Nice face and ass. She then goes off to give drinks to her friends.

We get our drinks and move through the venue, there is a group of 4 girls sitting down, open them Smiley.....and I don't. AAARGH! I voice this annoyance with myself to my brother whilst we are leaning against the bar.

I then spot a lone girl sitting down, however there is another drink there so go over and use my Seat Warmer opener:

'I know you're wondering who I am, during the day I lead a fairly boring life but at night I now offer my services as a seat warmer'

Gets a laugh most of the time....we start chatting and turns out she is also from Brazil. Her friend then comes back, who is English. I explain my role, then say to her that I 'hope the seat has been warmed to her liking'. She finds this hilarious, we're all chatting, they then start to talk with themselves and I lose interest. Eject......aaargh the English one was cute and seemed into me - should have got the number!

Chilling at the bar, more drinks. Some banter with the shot girl, she ends up relieving us of 20 quid as we all do shots. Got hustled! Ah well, it's not everyday I drink so fuck it.

I spot a 2 set, I say to my brother 'let's go', he says they look like tourists and he can't be arsed. 'Thanks bro, that's my opener!' And off I go....turns out one is English and one is Lithuanian. The Lithuanian is very pretty. I ask her about her country since I'm going there this weekend, then move on to some good vibes and banter. My brother has ejected from the English one, leaving me to handle two. English one starts getting impatient, so say I'm to Lithuanian I'm gonna leave but she should give me her number. BF objection. Oh well, least I tried so was happy with that anyway.

I walk off, and my brother is in set again! This guy isn't messing about tonight. I come in and say to them 'I hope you're looking after him!' The shorter of the 2 immediately shit-tests me with 'my friend has big boobs doesn't she?' I respond with 'are you her pimp then?'. After a bit of awkward conversation, we swap so I'm with BigBoobs and my brother is with the shorter one, allowing him to do his thing.

It's escalation from the word go with BigBoobs; instantaneous deployment of the Claw, pull her in so we're face-to-face, strong eye contact. The interaction can be summarised like this:
- there were MANY shit tests; some I passed, some I didn't.
- went for the makeout 4 times, got the cheek 4 times.
- lots of sexual conversation; there was serious tension.

BUT......

I was definitely pushing it too hard. After makeout denial I really needed to take a step back and just chill. She was umming and erring about giving her number, just left it in the end but a good interaction nonetheless.

After that longish set we left for another club.

PENTHOUSE
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Wasn't that busy, so these were the main events:
- it was hard going; my brother and I got several blowouts. As a result, we decided to amuse ourselves on the dancefloor. Whilst this was happening, I has what I will now call an Epic Moment:

Some guys were giving us weird looks, some girls were trying to join in, we created space and an audience, I didn't care.

I found this extremely liberating - why should I care what they think, they don't even know me, I've having fun and making myself laugh, vibing with my bro, that's all that matters.

But can't forget the women for too long, so open up a girl next to me just for the hell of it. She looks bored, so I say 'Long day at work?'. Get one word answers, I then decide to tell her about my day anyway because I'm awesome - starting with what I had for breakfast. After 5 minutes of my monologue she walks off. Unfazed by this, I simply move onto the next girl sitting down. Ha ha. After a couple of minutes I get bored and go back to the dancefloor with my bro.

We leave the club, get some MaccyDs, and start the walk to the bus stop. On the way I see a Leona Lewis lookalike and stop her with 'HEY, Leona Lewis! I need a picture with you!' She continues walking, however her friend stops and we vibe for a bit. Turns out they were both strippers from the Platinum Lace club! Wanted to pick her up and spin her round, however my arms are not strong enough for that (yet!).

This last interaction had me cracking up all the way home for some reason. So, all in all, a good night.

The lessons

1) Opening - don't think, just do. Simple.

2) Burn interactions to the ground. By this I mean hanging in there for as long as possible, escalation being the preferable option.

3) I'm beginning to LOVE shit tests. The more shit I get, the more resilient I become. Winning.

4) Plowing - again, I'm looking to push myself even further with this aspect.

5) LSE - A problem I have encountered in the past, as well as tonight with BigBoobs, is when girls have low self-esteem. So when you approach, all you get is shit test after shit test because they think you are fucking with them ('this guy is too confident - what does he want with me'). What I may try in future is to tone down how hard I go in, and make them qualify themselves a bit more. It's all experimentation at this stage so will see where I go with it.

So overall, a good night. On a side-note - with more visits to the gym, junk food begins to taste less appealing! Winning (feeling a bit Charlie Sheenish tonight).

Next episode - Adventures in Vilnius.....


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'The secret of happiness is not discovered in the absence of trials, but in the midst of them' - Ted Nace
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Default 24-08-2011, 04:43 PM

Excellent FR bro, very detailed and eloquently written.

Looks like a great beginning to your journey.
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Default Day Game Blues - 24-08-2011, 05:29 PM

Maaan, this is a toughie at the moment but one I need to crack.

I don't do outings specifically for daygame, but would be nice to take the opportunities presented when I'm on my way somewhere or out doing something. Today I was out in central London and when the sun is out, and as those of us in the Big Smoke know, it is a bazaar of beauties.

I apply pressure to myself, and the fear then kicks in. When I thought about this on the way home I laughed; when I was younger (15-18), me and my friends used to approach girls on the street ALL the time! So what the fuck happened between then and now?

It's that old nemesis Social Conditioning. But at the same time, I think about some awesome conversations I've had with complete strangers. In my line of work (teaching), a lot of us suffer from perfectionism. This has transferred into my daygame, where I'm looking for the Perfect Approach. There is no such thing - the game is meant to be messy.

Then as I pulled into my station, these lines from a Luther Vandross song sprung into my head:

"Don't care if I get rejected,
At least then I won't regret it"


Regret > Rejection. That is all. The time is coming to face the fear head-on.


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'The secret of happiness is not discovered in the absence of trials, but in the midst of them' - Ted Nace
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Default 24-08-2011, 06:04 PM

I know what you mean man i'm finding even the thought of daygame approaches pretty terrifing, but luckily i feel there's a cure for that, something i like to call DAYGAME HEAVEN (nottinghill carnival on the 31st) that should cure all of my aa because I'm going to try to do like a thousands or more approaches and regardless of outcome it should blast my daygame aa.
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Default 25-08-2011, 10:34 PM

Captivating FR Smiley. You have a great writing style.

Tony77: Good idea with the Jessica Alba line! You've got to be different.


"I'm just trying to be a better person. My name is Earl."
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Default 26-08-2011, 12:00 AM

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I know what you mean man i'm finding even the thought of daygame approaches pretty terrifing, but luckily i feel there's a cure for that, something i like to call DAYGAME HEAVEN (nottinghill carnival on the 31st) that should cure all of my aa because I'm going to try to do like a thousands or more approaches and regardless of outcome it should blast my daygame aa.
YES. Women left right and centre, make sure you go down with a crew and have some fun


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Default 26-08-2011, 09:03 PM

Nice one Tony there's some pretty nice articles on there, appreciate it.
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Default Adventures in Vilnius - 26th to 28th August - 29-08-2011, 09:48 PM

Have spent most of the day chilling and recovering from the mad weekend spent with GLG and JohnnyB in Lithuania. Vilnius - nice city, beautiful women.

Set out from Luton Friday morning, arrive in Vilnius and rendezvous with our link who we are renting an apartment from. The apartment is nice, some after-party potential.

GLG did some networking with various girls in the city, so we meet up with one who is from Australia but has lived in Vilnius for a year. Go for lunch in a cafe, this gives us an opportunity to check out the women. Eastern Europe rarely disappoints - there are a LOT of pretty girls, this bodes well for the weekend.

If you pressed for time, skip straight to Thoughts and Lessons. For everyone else, read on.....

Friday night
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Get our glad-rags on and hit the town, accompanied by our Australian guide who has recommended some bars. The first one we head to is dead, have a couple of drinks in there. The second one is also quiet, however we still spend a long time in here. There are 3 women - our guide, her fattie friend, and another one sitting down with a guy. We drink some home-brewed vodka brought from the back room, it tastes like petrol. I contemplate moving on the Australian (she is a 6 at best), but instead end up propositioning the fattie outside whilst she is having a cigarette. This is the low point of the evening. JohnnyB goes over to talk to the girl with the guy, turns out they are only friends but she has a boyfriend who lives in the country. The guy says 3 of his friends are arriving in the next 5-10 minutes, all girls. They take 30 minutes to get to the bar.

We then leave for another bar - at this point I am pissed (in the angry way, not the drunk way). The group sits down to order drinks, again there is no-one in the bar. WTF?! So myself, GLG and JohnnyB say our goodbyes and head to a club just down the road. The club is dead. AARGH! The night is becoming a disaster. We get a kebab. The Australian says we should head back to the first bar as it may now be busy. So we head back.....and it has turned into a full-blown club night!

This looks much better - there are more than 3 girls in the club, some hotties walking around. I spot a lone girl sitting down and sit next to her, we start talking, and that was the main interaction of the night. Claw her in, introduce myself to the friends, the friends leave her alone. We are vibing, went for makeout but no-go. Step back, chill, more convo, try again, no-go. Was with her for about an hour, GLG and JohnnyB had left to go home so call it a night.

Not much happened during the day on Saturday, so I'll skip straight to.....

Saturday night
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After Friday's farce, the 3 of us decide to dispense with our local guides and head to the club that the Australian referred to as a 'meat market', Pabla Latino.

A summary: We got in there at 1030, and didn't leave til' 5 in the morning! So this is what went down....

We get there and it is already busy, a lot of cuties and hotties. After getting drinks, all of us are immediately into sets. In the outside section I see a lone blondie (Gaby) and start chatting to her. This girl is beautiful, we are vibing, lots of physical contact. The friends arrive and I introduce myself, chat with them for a bit. She then heads off, and I head back to the bar. Chat and flirt with 2 Norwegian girls. GLG and JohnnyB are chatting to a 2-set.

The next section of the night is pretty hazy, I was just walking around opening various girls and talking to them. I then see GLG and JohnnyB on the dancefloor and join them. They are playing Latino music, we are salsa-ing. I see a tall blonde hottie in a tight red dress and start dancing with her, I've started to get a thing for tall women recently. Her ass is fine. Didn't go for the makeout though for some reason, later on I saw her in another part of the club and the attraction was gone (in reflection, I was trying to join their party ....)

Meet up with GLG and JohhnyB on the outside balcony. On the way, I see a group of 10 girls all sat down and feel the fear factor going up. Umming and arring with them, then I say fuck it, will try and last 2 minutes. Go in with 'HEY, WASSUP LADIES!' and go from there. 5 turn away, 4 are curious, 1 responds immediately with 'hey!' Start chatting to her, GLG and JohnnyB come into the group as well. 2 minute challenge complete!

GLG goes downstairs to makeout with a girl he met earlier, JohnnyB is chatting to another - good times for the London boys I then start to lose a bit of momentum, then spot a woman in trainers sitting down.

The Italian - as soon as I start talking to her, she lets loose with a stream of frustration about her night - WTF. Part of me wants to eject, however I stick in there and just listen for some reason whilst she gets things off her chest. She then says that I've had a 'good effect' on her. IOI, game on! We move to the upstairs balcony, more vibes, she then starts telling me about how she is a passionate woman that 'likes to fuck' and doesn't like guys who pussy around. There is serious tension, we are slow dancing, go for makeout, initial resistance then its on. She is a VERY good kisser, 'Little Smiley' is now wide awake. Start thinking about logistics of getting her back to the apartment. Say we should get another drink.......and this is where it all goes wrong. We get to the bar, barman refuses to serve her, she gets angry, I pay for the drinks, try to calm her down but she is now all over the place. I have the drink with her, decided to cut my losses and bid her farewell.

Chode around the club for a bit, then spot Gaby the Blondie from earlier and re-open. We go to have a dance, OMG she is hot - seriously attracted to her. This makes me afraid to go for the makeout, even though the signs and vibe is there. She then heads back to her friends, she gives me her business card before she leaves.

It's now getting towards the end of the night and there are less sets. JohnnyB is with his girl, so me and GLG decide to PLOW. This was pure jokes, just hitting up the remaining girls left. Danced with some model-looking girls in one room, again she is taller than me but HOT. Hands on the ass whilst dancing - this is fast becoming a signature move! Then head to the other room, find another 2 girls and start dancing with them. My one is cool - naturally pretty, we chat about travelling. Makeout opportunity was there, but again didn't want to fuck it up.

All 3 of us have had a good night with numbers and makeouts, and head back to the apartment.

Sunday night
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The streets are quiet tonight, hit a couple of bars but they are largely empty. In one place, the barmaids recommend a club near our apartment. We head there, and it's busy. Walking through the dancefloor, I spot Monica to my left. Take her hand, and we start dancing and chatting.

For me this was the best interaction of the whole weekend. Nice body, pretty face, great ass. Lots of vibing. Went for makeout a couple of times, got the cheek. After a while just decided to chill - the physical attraction was there, so no point in pushing it. Introduce myself to her friend, who pretty much leaves me and her to it for the rest of the night! We then go outside for some fresh air, so the 3 of us are chatting. Monica says her friend is going to work in a couple of hours, and says that she herself lives quite far out. Previously I had mentioned that the apartment was 5 minutes walk away.....logistics aren't going to be an issue this time. But we have to leave at 4am to get to the airport and it's 3:30....fuck! This isn't happening. Oh well....JohnnyB and GLG find me outside and we head back to pack.


Some thoughts

I've now been to Lithuania and Poland, and their women are so much more naturally beautiful. Even in the clubs, they tended not to wear a lot of make-up but still looked good;
The majority I talked to were super-friendly, intelligent, and humourous. And the friends tended to just leave you alone when you were talking to them....this doesn't happen very much in London so any thoughts on this are welcome.

The lessons

1) Physicality is starting to become more natural. And speaks volumes.

2) Don't be intimidated by beauty. This happened a couple of times, and links to....

3) Not being afraid to lose the girl. Better to try and fail, than to not try and regret.

4) Staying in interactions for much longer - this is something I'm really beginning to enjoy. Rather than bouncing around from set to set, I'm starting to get much better quality interactions and vibing.

5) Focusing on the process - this relates to (4). Rather than thinking 'I need to get laid', my focus is now on enjoying the conversation and building a vibe. I've found this has naturally led on to other things, and this approach is really helping me.

6) Starting to find a natural rhythm. I now realise that I have a better experience when I start off slowly and build momentum on a night out. Before I used to enter the bar/club and be like 'WOOOO! YEEEEAH! LET'S GO' and bounce around from set to set, but now I'm just a bit more chilled. Don't get me wrong - I still have times where I'm raring to go from the start, but my state now feels more authentic and in tune to what I actually feel.

Back to the grind, so no outings for a bit - stay tuned folks


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'The secret of happiness is not discovered in the absence of trials, but in the midst of them' - Ted Nace

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Default Sat 17th September: Camden - 18-09-2011, 01:16 PM

Made the cross-London trek last night to meet up with Giant - cool guy, seems to be on the right path.

Started off in a pub, we're just chatting about life and other shit. There are a couple of pairs of girls around, but we're happy just to chill.

Move on to the next venue, whilst we're outside I open a pair of Spanish chicks, we get some good conversation going then they go back inside. Nice warm-up, feel a bit better now.

Whilst walking down the road Giant starts talking to 2 girls....they actually did a backturn to come and talk to him! Nice. So we are all chatting, one is a redhead and is not bad (7) so I try to zone in on her. Looking back, I think I was trying too hard for rapport rather than saying what was on my mind and that kinda staled the conversation out.

They tell us we should come along to Proud, and we go as we weren't too sure where to go. Lengthy queue, but eventually we get in. Whilst inside we wait for Giant for about 5 minutes, then they say they're heading off to the bar. Check outside and Giant is not there, then check my phone and get a text saying 'ID fail!' Daaamn.....

So now I have to make a decision, (1) go home or (2) fly solo. Having already paid, I opt for (2).

So this is how the rest of the night went:

1) Couldn't find the cloakroom, so asked a mixed set of 3 where it was. This turned into a 5 minute conversation with me telling them the story of my night.

THEN.......

The fear started to take over.

Loud music, a LOT of hotties, big club. Anxiety started to set in, the mind started giving me all kinds of reasons not to approach. I sat down to regain some kind of composure. After 10 minutes of choding about, I just thought 'keep it real' rather than creating imaginary scenarios. Let's do this....

2) Group of 3 girls - 'Is this the best club in Camden' opener. Almost immediately the HB8 grabs my glasses and wears them, and then we start dancing together. I feign blindness. The interaction ends with a kiss on the lips. Reality 1, Mind 0.

3) Open a group of 8 dancing women with the same lame opener. For those scared of approaching large groups - the group normally breaks down into a smaller group anyway, making it easier to engage them. I correctly guess they are a 'middle-class hen party'.

4) Pair of dancing girls - 'I Love your energy!' They bring me into their photo.

5) Blonde perched on sofa - ask about her tattoo, bit of misinterpretation, banter with her a little bit about being married.

6) Group of 3 'oldies' - I end up vibing with these women for most of the night. We were just messing around on the dancefloor, I got chatting a bit more to one of them as she had a cute look to her. So we're dancing on and off, however I'm conscious of just becoming the 'dancing partner' for the night so throw a couple of intent signals into the mix. Didn't really seem to be going anywhere....but never assume.

Towards the end of the night she says that she is leaving in a bit, I say I'm leaving now anyway and tell her that we should exchange numbers. Put the number in my phone, goodbye hug then BOOM! Makeout. Not a long one, but enough to let me know that this would be a solid number close judging by the smile on her face. And with that I departed.

What was learned
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1) I NEED TO GO OUT MORE.

Going out + Approaching = Progress.

I hadn't been out properly for a couple of weeks, and the rustiness was evident. I excused myself from going out on Friday because I was 'tired'. I need to stop with these lame excuses

2) The mind gives you all kinds of fucked up scenarios......

99% of which turn out to be false. It comes from a place of low value - 'I will run out of things to say, they will not like me etc.' More practice = Less fear = Better results.

For Giant: at one point you said you felt awkward and I think I know why...we weren't really relaxed. Hopefully we'll go out again sometime and have an awesome night....and don't forget your ID!


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Default 19-09-2011, 01:44 PM

Great post McLovin' good to hear about your close. I like how you just power into approaches, I think you'd opened twice before my single kind of open. To be honest I only asked them if they knew anywhere with a decent smoking area. It just naturally developed into a conversation from there. It's easy to open with questions, you just naturally start a conversation. I find it hard to open with the intent of pulling.

Those girls were only 18, I did get the number of the one I'd been chatting to though, because she seemed cool.
I found the whole lack of id thing quite funny, I could have got pissed off about it, because lets be honest, it is a bit ridiculous, but what's the point.

I think your spot on about the awkwardness thing, it is just a case of being relaxed, as I felt more relaxed I felt less awkward. As I was walking back to the tube station I was super chilled for some reason, and had a 8-9 (subjective I know) stare at me as I was walking up and stop me to ask me where there was a toilet (random) somehow I ended up with my arm around her (I think natural kino) said I didn't know, but suggested she try a pub, then told her she was absolutely gorgeous, got back "oh thank you so are you" and a massive smile. Quick hug and kiss on the cheek and I turned and walked away (idiot).

Ye we'll definitely head out again, though it'll have to wait till the end of the month as I am rather poor at the moment.


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