HB10's

[Knave]

I’ve been inspired to post as I’m broke this weekend and stuck in front of a PC with a 4 pack, there is another thread on here about help needed with 10’s. So heres my FR.

10’s are hard because they have more experience being hit on and have higher standards. Essentially they are still looking for the same thing as 4 and 5’s, confidence and strength, sometimes physical but mostly mental. She needs to know that if you go to the toilet and some guy is talking to her you are strong enough to deal with it or she starts losing weight and feeling fatigued you’re not going to breakdown etc etc.

The single best way to get a 10 is to hit on lots of them and desensitise yourself, back in winter I’d pushed myself to approach 20 HB in one weekend.

This was the Saturday night.

This is full of canned material I kept a note book at the time and used it often in the early days.

First off if AA is a problem it not only fucks up your state but your approach and chances as welll. You HAVE to get this right its a phrase used a lot but you only get one chance to make a first impression. If you get this wrong you’ll spend the rest of the interaction trying to convince her that her first impression of you was wrong and most of the time it completely fucks up chances of same night sex, she has too much doubt. I approached group the girl I wanted was not looking directly at me but it’s a safe bet she’d spotted me women have far better peripheral vision.

Wow this club is the dogs (or whatever I said I can’t remember), hey how’s it going?
Yeh cool man
There’s some pretty hot chicks here tonight (I’m Mr. Socialable, I’m going to get friendly with this guy and his mates and I want him to know I’m not after his cock)
Yeh you should talk to Karen she’s a babe (occasionally it does happen an Alpha not behaving like a cunt)
You’re Karen right.
Erm yes do we know you.
What there is more than one of you. (I start looking around)
I mean my friends don’t get funny
What can I say there’s always a comedian sometimes it’s me.
I’m Knave (extend hand) she takes it, I give it a gently squeeze and look into her eyes she takes her hand back and looks down. (Google it)
So what do you do apart from talking to girls in clubs?
Hey it’s a full time job I don’t have time for anything else (I’ll continue to ignore her questions about what I do etc, she’ll either think I’m hiding something or being mysterious either way, I coiuldn’t give a fuck what she thinks as long as it will keep her intrigued.
She is really tidy, I hate the 10 system lets just say if she told me she was on the cover of this months ‘FHM’, I’d believe her, I’ll start taking her down a few pegs and turning up the teasing, I’ve never once given her straight answer to anything she’s asked I’m now i’m going to ‘neg the fuck out of her’
I love you’re dress there’s a girl over there with the same one on I can show you if you like (my first attempt to get her away from the group).
She dismisses it as nothing and laughs.
It looks better on you give me a twirl, she does.
I like the earrings I touch them and her ear and her hair, I’m getting a good vibe so I go for the neck as well, ‘Are they cheap plastic, I suppose the ring is fake as well, show me’, I like this because it’s confident and if she holds her hand out for you it’s a good sign, It can backfire I’ve been told to fuck off before now but so what.
She holds her hand out I pretend to examine it like a jeweller, nope its real I look into her eyes again release her hand and she looks down.
I spot a Chinese tattoo on her back.
Is that mandarin or Cantonese?
I’m not sure its for luck
I touch her skin, well if its Cantonese this symbol is for abundance or rice (It’s the first thing I thought of) and this is one is slang for drunk or fried and the two symbols together is the number 27, she knows where is going and starts laughing a lot.

The other members of the group now want a piece, I can’t complain I’ve had 3 or 4 minutes with her, so I start working the floor talking about dance music and other shit, books tell you to move into the centre of the group but I’ll stay where I am I’m comfortable here, what I noticed in the months that follow is if you’re interesting the group reforms around you anyway.

If you think this is going well sometimes it does, sometimes you have an amazing night and its largely down to how confident you are, she stuck a label on me, really fucking quickly, women do this constantly, they have to, my label is fun confident guy, so why wouldn’t it go well and why shouldn’t she want to get to know me.

Were having a laugh but now I’m stuck in a group chat, lots of ways to get out but I choose the ‘Takeaway’, hey you guys are a fun bunch enjoy your night, I shake everyones hand and give my girl another gentle squeeze this time she squeezes back and her hand stays until I release.

I move as far away as possible and hit another group Hey I’m Knave and you are... ‘Goodbye Knave’, that’s a shame are your friends staying, I get a slight smile, then the guy steps in ‘look mate get lost okay’. Not a lot you can do, something else I’ve noticed about 10’s is the defence factor goes up with males in the group. I think it has a lot to do with the fact they want to fuck her and are showing off in front of her, it happened a lot to me. I could never be bothered with it.

I’d like to find another HB10 to parade past my girl, but I’m getting blown out a lot, I even start going for 6’s amd 7’s but what I really want is the first 10 who I’ve kino’d to fuck and she didn’t object.

So about an hour later I walk past the group, on my way to the toilet she says ‘hello again you’, I don’t need any more invitation, I get about 5 minutes with her before the 3 girls decide they going dancing, you should come, I can’t be arsed dancing tonight besides I’m not in the mood. The guys head to bar, I’m still in sociable mode so I tag along, I end up ordering a double JD, start talking to the girl stood at bar next to me she’s pretty but really shy, and i’m working too hard plus I can’t be arsed.

I decide at that point I wanted Karen, I leave the drink on the bar, don’t need alcohol.

I end up watching her from what I thought was a safe distance, she spots me and smiles right at me, I move and she spots me again (how do girls do this???). Don’t ever do this it reeks of neediness.

I form a plan in my head that I’ll grab her as she comes off the dance floor, I have it all worked out. She heads off the dance floor, I intercept the group, take her hand and tell her you’re coming to the bar with me it’s risky but being this dominate is the only way to offset the neediness I displayed earlier, she tells me she needs to go to the toilet, fuck I didn’t plan for that 18 months ago I’d have taken this as a rejection, my belief is so much more different these days, I tell her I’ll be over at the bar she says okay leans in and pecks me on the lips, I wasn’t expecting this, bit of a bonus but I can stop gaming her now.

She wants a cocktail I tell her we’re going halfs, she says no way, fuck it the not buying drinks is never carved in stone. I order for us I go for ‘sex on a beach’ because I want to use it in a NLP tactic, SoaB its fucking disgusting sickly fruity drink but its works for my seduction because I want to fuck her tonight not next week. Using NLP I paint this future date of sex on the beach and describe it great detail get her adding touches, water splashes, sand the works, she’s well into it, she even starts sucking on the straw like its a cock, without realising what she’s doing. I kiss close her and go for extraction she says she can’t leave her friends.

I find a lot of PU is like sales personally I’m not very good at sales and if anyone tries to sell me something it’s the one thing guaranteed to get my fucking back up. What I do know about sales is its important to establish before selling can happen what the real objection is for example I’m not interested might mean I can’t afford it or i can;t leave my friends means i don’t want to sleep with you on the first night. I couldn’t possible describe all the methods for overcoming this one and some are situation dependant but just try and get the real reason out of her and your well on your way. Mostly, its I don’t want to be classed as slut.

Her argument was I don’t want to sleep with a stranger my friends would talk about me, but then she says you are really lovely. I know she wants it, we just have to deal with her friends, so we go back to her friends and tell them we’re going to meet my friends in another club we did the whole exchange numbers thing so that they know she is safe and we got in a taxi.

She was my first 10 and I would have stayed with her but she started getting massively possessive and giving me ultimatums, sad really because she was amazing.