Shit tested by German women bringing another guy

[TroyS]

Am a relative newcomer to PUA, but am enjoying finding out more about it - my new hobby :-)

I'm from the UK, although I work in Germany. I find doing approaches in Germany relatively easy. Basic approach I use is one of two normally (unless situational):

Approach 1: Hi there, I'm wondering if you can help ... Sorry, I should ask "Sprechen Sie Englisch"? [They normally say of course] OK cool, I'm looking for a cash machine, do you know where one is around here?
(If they do, I follow up that they obviously know this town and do they come from here. They then enevitably ask me where I am from and from where the conversation is started. If they don't, I say "oh OK, you're not from here either? Where are you from? etc.)

Approach 2: Hi there, I'm wondering if you can help ... Sorry, I should ask "Sprechen Sie Englisch"? [They normally say of course] OK cool, I noticed your [item of clothing] and it matches exactly what my sister said she wanted for her birthday. Can I ask where you got it from?
(I then ask if that shop is nearby, then follow conversation on as above)

Anyway, to set the scene, the other day, at lunch from work, sun was shining and went with a colleague (who introduced me to PUA) to an outside bar on the river. Previously we have been pretty much only doing night game, and after a successful day game the week before (approach #1 with two German girls who take me to the cash machine then invite me to club), we decide that day game is the way to go, and no time like the present to try it. Conveniently, a pretty lass comes and sits down. I notice she is wearing a nice pair of sunglasses, so after I finish my lunch I do approach #2. Works great but she's not daft, although was getting some pretty odd looks from other people (I think they were negging me in German, but I'm oblivious). So I get her number, and we meet a few days later. She's only in Germany for a short period (moves around for work). We arrange to go to a party with a small crowd I know (one girl and her friends I night gamed and has a bf but showing signs of interest - regardless - good to have her along for a bit of entourage game!). My friends I know also bring some women as well (one is a natural it seems, not really discussed PUA with him, the other is my PUA colleague).

I escalate (discretely) both women and isolate them to see how they re-act. Girl with bf is showing signs of interest but too reserved. I decide to leave her to my friend who is also interested in her. The other German girl (the clever one with the sunglasses) is also a tough nut to crack. Myself, the PUA and the "girl" go back to his for a few after party drinks. She's very "German" and straight laced and pretty serious (a bit boring really). It's getting to 5am and she announces that she has to be with a guy for 2-3 months before anything happens. I look at my mate and our eyes (trying not to roll them) know what we're both thinking. Regardless, I have a flight to catch and leave to go straight to the airport. I get that although she is clever, she actually has a lot of "barriers" and pretty inexperienced with men.

I don't think too much of it in the coming days and think onwards and upwards. She texts me a couple of days ago, saying she is leaving for Paris in a few days and would love to see me. I have a few other options so leave it. She then rings the next day. I leave it, then decide I have a couple of hours free tonight so why not. Had another women lined up for a potential meet last night at 11:30pm (odd time) but she sounds a little unsure if she can make it, so I decide to book in sunglasses girl at 9pm at a local bar to where I live, but let her know I need to move on at 11pm.

I ask her what she wants to do and very out of character she tells me she wants porn?! Odd response I think for her, so I think she just wants to see how I react. I tell her that can be arranged but otherwise leave it at that.

At 8:50pm she texts me asking me to bring a hot women. I think my luck is in and she's bi. I tell her I can sort that out (my mind is going overtime with as I have a Russian women who said she would come back with me and a lady I was with at the time and have since seen - that's another story though). Then at 8:55 she mentions she's bringing a guy with her. Wow! Proper shit test I think. Think about bailing, but hey, it's a challenge I think. The guy she knows from a sports club. I meet them just outside the bar. He's obviously keen on her. I realize they now asked me to bring a hot women for him as they have obviously been discussing my original approach (I get the feeling direct approaches are quite uncommon for German men) and think I can get someone straight away for him?! We walk into the where I know the barman well (my local fav). We sit and have some drinks. The guy doesn't speak very good English and it's hard work. But my "tactic" was to actually engage him a lot more than her. Take the shit test by the horns and show her I'm quite happy to talk to anyone. In the text it was like he was gonna stay for a bit (20 mins) then go, but he stays right 'til 11. I don't hear anything from the women I was going to meet at 11:30pm (I messaged via FB and didn't have her number at that time - I just left mine with her). I message my PUA friend who is also out with another guy and two Ukrainians and we agree to have drinks at his. I am also keen to move on as I accidentally sent a text to a Turkish women instead of the Russian one and she is asking if she can come along (and she's the kind of women who would just turn up if she knows where I am).

I say to sunglasses chick we should meet my PUA friend for some drinks. I have organized the Russian chick to come to the drinks at the PUA as she is out with friends in town. I figure if sunglasses girl is gonna shit test me then I'll shit test her and am actually more keen on the Russian.

We leave the bar and the guy has to catch a train. We go via my apartment to pick-up a bottle of wine. I genuinely wasn't going to try to isolate her etc., but I was keen to see what her reaction would be. She stands at the door to my apartment (i.e. not coming in) as I go in to get a bottle of wine. I have to beckon her in with an offer of some peanuts ;-) She complies. We then make way to the other bar.

We get the PUAs apartment and have some drinks. The hot Russian then turns up (unfortunately not with her friends which I was hoping for, for something for my friends). Sunglasses girl is still being pretty straight, and then after a while she says she has to get home (2am-ish). I walk her out and outside the apartment I kino and escalate. I get a kiss-close and discuss what we could get up to ;-) She says it's not "the right time for a women" so I leave it at that.

I go back in to the apartment and escalate the Russian. The rest of the party disperses and me, the PUA and the Russian girl decide to go to another bar. This scene change was actually suggested by my PUA friend. The only thing with my PUA friend is that he is also Russian and being a PUA also hits on her (and some of the reason for the scene change). We go to a bar and I get two other women involved in the conversation hoping he will escalate those instead. He doesn't :-( We head out of the bar. He's clearly up for mfm but fortunately he decides to head home and me and the Russian head back to mine.

A good night. And interestingly I just got a text off the sunglasses lass at 7:30am telling me she is sitting by the river and I should join her before work?! I decline (later today) as was already way too late for work.

So, sorry for the essay, but, has anyone else been shit tested by the women bringing a guy last minute and how did you deal with it? Did you bail?

[Phil]

ill be honest, i couldnt be assed readin that.

but why is it a shit test?? not everythin a woman does has to be about u, maybe she likes him, or he is a friend??

dont get too hung up on PUA maybe mystery & style dont know everythin

maybe there both geeks

[-SUPERSTAR-]

Shit test or not, I'd say you handled that well.

Oh and when she says 'she has to be with a guy for 2-3 months before anything happens' don't take much notice of that, they say this to hear themselves say it to satisfy that cortex of their mind.
The main thing is that her actions are gradually signalling the opposite through the timeline of your post.

[Refl3x]

my PUA friend is that he is also Russian and being a PUA also hits on her

Does your russian friend have a gun?
if not why dont you say somthing to him about hitting on your chicks --like ' how about i slap you in the face if you touch my birds again'
thats if your arsed about it-- if not
out of manners he should have checked its alright with you first--but knowing russians like i do he wouldnt do that so.

[TroyS]

Originally Posted by -SUPERSTAR-

Shit test or not, I'd say you handled that well.

Oh and when she says 'she has to be with a guy for 2-3 months before anything happens' don't take much notice of that, they say this to hear themselves say it to satisfy that cortex of their mind.
The main thing is that her actions are gradually signalling the opposite through the timeline of your post.

Superstar, yeah, I think you are spot on, much better to going on the vibe you are getting and ignore words :-) However, vibe was also pretty reserved and I could believe under normal situations that would be true. Speaking to here on the street last night she was saying the way I am with her was shortening the time from "start" to "finish" (as she put it). I think I'm quite lucky with PUA in Germany as the find it an "adventure" when you approach them as I don't think German guys do that (they seem to get to know women through their circle of friends).

[TroyS]

Originally Posted by Refl3x

Does your russian friend have a gun?
if not why dont you say somthing to him about hitting on your chicks --like ' how about i slap you in the face if you touch my birds again'
thats if your arsed about it-- if not
out of manners he should have checked its alright with you first--but knowing russians like i do he wouldnt do that so.

He probably has :-) In one sense it's good going out with him as a wingman as we bounce ideas off each other and can open quite a few sets. But yeah, not so good when you end up cock-blocking each other. No-win.

[-SUPERSTAR-]

Originally Posted by TroyS

Superstar, yeah, I think you are spot on, much better to going on the vibe you are getting and ignore words :-) However, vibe was also pretty reserved and I could believe under normal situations that would be true. Speaking to here on the street last night she was saying the way I am with her was shortening the time from "start" to "finish" (as she put it). I think I'm quite lucky with PUA in Germany as the find it an "adventure" when you approach them as I don't think German guys do that (they seem to get to know women through their circle of friends).

Funny I had a different experience, I went to Dusseldorf a while back for the Karneval. A couple of German dudes approached the girl that I was travelling with at the trainstation and opened with a line I recognised (from 'The Pickup Artist' tv show I think). Anyway I busted them on it and we actually got chatting about pickup.. up to the point where they invited us back to take drugs with them, thats where we got fuckin creeped out.

Absolutely stunning girls around in the Dusseldorf and Cologne area, shame hardly anyone spoke English!