Daygame Vs NightGame

[tebbs]

After going to the daygame.com seminar on Saturday, which was incidently very good, a little disorganised, but still very good, myself and my 3 wings decided to get an early night and try the some of the stuff we learnt.

To start, I briefly explain some of the notes I took from the seminar and then explain how todays sarge went for myself, I can only explain for myself and not my 3 wings as obviously we opened the sets solo on our own, but we discussed the sets afterwards in the car on the way home whilst making notes.

So firstly, day game if you are in groups or on your HAS to be FUN, its impossible to do otherwise, so to be in a group of 4 of you certainly has its ups and downs which Ill explain later

We basically arrived in the Milton Keynes mall at 12:45 after drawing lots for who was going to open 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th...and then we headed out into the shops in groups of 2.

We all did 2 warm ups each by asking anyone where Marks and Spencers was, then I started opening my sets, they all went like this.....

Now I know people love to know "what was your opener", so for day 1 we decided all to use the same low risk opener which was...

"Hey there, dont worry, this isnt a robbery...pause for laughs but I need your female opinion on something, Im buying as present for my sisters 21st birthday/friends wedding gift, and we need some ideas, we have a budjet of 200 pounds etc etc etc etc"

Now is where my opener is different to night game, as I will always use an oberservational opener "where did you get your handbag" or direct opener such as "hey I saw you from over there and thought you where hot, so I had to talk to you"

Then basically after we have chatted a little and I mean 20 - 30 secs about how "I didnt want to get her anything boring like cds or dvds, I was looking for something more interesting, like maybe a spa day, or jewerelly, I will either find a way to transition off the opener...for example...

Her "oh so maybe a spa day in Luton, yes thats sounds good"

Me "Yes theres a nice spa on Chapel street, are you from Luton"

The aim here is to get off the opener and into rapport, even after 20-30 secs if I cant, ill just stop talking about presents and ask her..

"are you from MK,Luton, Watford?" etc.. etc etc

then I use the 10 hook lead system like I have explained on other posts, to get rapport, jokes and a bit of attraction. (its daygame remember, theres no shagging in the toilets)

Now because its daygame, Its all a little more tonned down than night game so for example, I will ask her about...

1.her clothes/style/ colours of clothes
2.What she is doing in the mall
3.Her mood/vibe (is she rushing around, was she slowing ambling around)
4.Her accent

And from this Ill try and do a cold read... so you look like a school teacher...due to your dress,style....etc etc etc etc

"I see you like wearing the colour pink, I guess your a girly girly etc etc

"I saw you where walking really fast, I bet your a high flying business women"

Then i will try and link the assumption / cold read I made to myself...

"Oh so you remind me/you must be a sporty chick, Im also sporty I love snowboarding"

now by doing this sort of thing, that will keep you off interview type questions and will keep you making statements..

"I always wondered what It would be like to be a school teacher"

"I imagine being a school teacher is XXXX... is that true ?"

Finnaly, I will ask them if they wanted to go and join me for a QUICK coffee in starbucks (instant date) they say yes.. great, if no then staright away say, "cool hey whats your number we can do later on this week"

At that point they either refuse, or give you the number, I opened 6 sets today and got one number, so not bad for day one.

A couple of things that where amazing blatant.... each of the 6 sets opened effortlessly,after an initial 1 second moment of shock from them when I approached them. (theyt are truely shocked to be getting opened in the day)

Also the very second, ON ALL 6 sets when i transitioned off the opener to find out about them, each of the 6 faces light up with huge smiles and you could tell I was making impact, reason being.... simple....

Girls dont get chatted up in the day.......... and they LOVE IT !!!!

So in conclusion, what myself and my 3 wings all agreed on today was the following pros and cons..

Pros

1.No distractions (loud music,cockblocks,friends pulling her away)

2.Each set opened effortlessly due to reason one

3.Huge addrelien rush, which whacks you into state straight away when opened first set.

4.All sets 100 times more friendlier, theres none of this her trying to be cool by shit testing you in front of her mates (her self validation)

5.They wont walk away from you until you bail or try and close (yes this was true guys, and VERY VERY bizarre, and the exact opposite to what I thought would happen, my sets wouldnt move they stayed on the spot, until I bailed or closed...I likened it to being collared by the charity man in the street or the spotty man in dixons/comet, unless your strong willed to tell them to fuck off, you actually stop and hear their shit for a bit)

6.Get in to state very quicky (but also loose it very quicklY) basically I find with night game, you have to look around 3 bars to find a set before you open them, in day game they are everywhere, about every 5 mins, you just have to walk around to find them, instead of waiting for them to walk into the bar.

7.Possiblity of instant dates.

8.No shit tests,.. the only shit tests are ones to test you if you a good man (so thats a good shit test) not the gayass, im trying to be cool in front of my mates, or make my ex boyfriend jealous beacause hes on the otherside of the bar (yes I have had this)

9. its alot easier to get them to seek your approval (jump though your hoops) as theres is no quewe if other guys to try and approach them like in a club, basically you have caught her off guard, so its easier to run game on her, unlike in a club where she has had it all night..

Cons with daygame

1.More AA before my first set, as I found it just didnt feel right chatting girls up in the day (this changed after my first set though)

2.States lowers quickly if you have an 30 min lunch break

3.My wings found it t hjard to transition in rapport

4.Number closing very hit and miss, you have to open alot of sets to get a number close, as an K-close and F-close is near on impossible/

5.Need to be carefull at weekends, we opened a group of 17 year olds and a group of 16 year olds... from a distance they looked 19 -21... but within 3 seconds of talking to them, I was waiting for the rentacops to haul my ass...

Anyways I hope that helps some people... any more questions... feel free to ask... but it was just day one for us

[ambience]

Nice post! What happened in the sets where you didn't number close?

[Maxemillion]

I find opening ok, rapport ok, number closing not bad, but escalating out of the old friendly zone more difficult. My best set in daygame was when my wing told me to tell her she was cute or pretty etc, I said she was quite cute after about 3mins of indirect and her face lit up. I def could have got her num or instadated, probably could have k-closed it. Its like emotional deal or no deal tho, so I exited high on the feeling of victory when actually should have stayed in set. Its tougher with a wing at the same time bcos wings get bored and pissed if you stay in a set too long without escalating. The ideal game has to be solo game, but its a difficult zen state to get to. Tebbs is right, they do love day approaches. Particularly when u communicate ur interested in them, not the opener.

[tebbs]

Originally Posted by ambience

Nice post! What happened in the sets where you didn't number close?

I realised they where 17 and bailed!!!

me: "..21st birthday present for my sister's birthday... so she a simalar age to you, what would you like your brother to buy you...."


girl "well im only 17th, so I guess...."

Me: "Ahh cool so thanks for that. bye....."