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Cheers VibeSpreader for the tips from last Saturday afternoon. You gave me some useful feedback on unhelpful behaviours I was exhibiting, which I was otherwise completely unaware of (notably aggressive subcommunication and unusual feet posture, amongst others).
Good advice the 7-38-55 rule is rarely recognised. 7% is communicated through spoken word, 38% through tone of voice, and 55% through body language.

Its good to read someone recognised it.
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Default 01-12-2020, 10:30 PM

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Good advice the 7-38-55 rule is rarely recognised. 7% is communicated through spoken word, 38% through tone of voice, and 55% through body language.

Its good to read someone recognised it.
My body language has generally been off with girls historically, but it's helpful to reveal why my results are still way below optimum atm in daygame. Lots of bad habits to break, which I hope with progressive recognition (from a decent coach) will help.


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Default 01-12-2020, 11:25 PM

That's a misinterpretation of Mehrabian's work.


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Default 02-12-2020, 12:10 AM

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That's a misinterpretation of Mehrabian's work.


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No not really, thats it in its simplest form.

Unless you refere to the emotion in the verbal communication from the non verbal communication (body language) And when the two are not congruent, we will always believe the non verbal message over the verbal?
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Default 02-12-2020, 01:09 AM

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Cheers VibeSpreader for the tips from last Saturday afternoon. You gave me some useful feedback on unhelpful behaviours I was exhibiting, which I was otherwise completely unaware of (notably aggressive subcommunication and unusual feet posture, amongst others). I liked your upbeat attitude, which makes a pleasant change from some other experienced wings/coaches I've had, and thus makes a scary experience a lot easier to handle.

I've not been given this in-depth feedback in a while (since I got coached by Project Tusk), so it was a great experience so here's my shout out, and look forward to the next time!

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Cool mate, appreciate the compliment. You're leaving out that you had a decent 5-10 minute chat with an absolute stunner and closed 2 numbers after the session- big improvement in results are coming for sure!

I've had a crazy week few days building the strongest connection with a chick who's confidence, passion for life and banter is high grade. Met her while she was kickboxing with a friend, opened because i'm genuinely interested in getting a new Muay Thai coach, then her strong af eye contact and banter caught my attention. Was great my wing also closed her friend.

In only a few days we'd VM'ed back and forth daily, couple short dates with lots of location changes, then a 2hour phoncall till 3am. Literally so rare for me to like someone this much before the first bang, honestly nearly gave me performance anxiety ahahha. Chemistry is crazy good thank fuck.

Anways despite this intensity it's cool she's happy i'm not down for anything exclusive anytime soon, so i'll still be cold approaching/seeing FWB's but probably less dates with new chicks/look to escalate quicker.
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Default 02-12-2020, 01:15 AM

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No not really, thats it in its simplest form.

Unless you refere to the emotion in the verbal communication from the non verbal communication (body language) And when the two are not congruent, we will always believe the non verbal message over the verbal?
I don't think i've ever seen Kowloski comment something that's not to get a reaction out of people aka trolling. If he wanted to add value/engage with you, he'd elaborate on what he said.

Love seeing breakdowns of communication, have you seen any of the youtuber 'charisma on command' ? Great breakdown with Jaden/will smith in group dynamics.
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Default 02-12-2020, 08:29 AM

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You're leaving out that you had a decent 5-10 minute chat with an absolute stunner and closed 2 numbers after the session- big improvement in results are coming for sure!
Well, once I can start consistently turning numbers from flakes/ghosts into actual dates then I'll be getting the results I want That's the main issue I've had for the past year.



To elaborate for Kowalski, I effortlessly found this link - https://www.businessballs.com/commun...body-language/


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Default 02-12-2020, 11:43 AM

Fact: I’m the most helpful and most highly praised member of this forum ever.

You clearly haven’t read the studies. He basically showed a photo of an angry, happy or neutral face (only the face not the whole body and only a photo not in motion, the so to say body language is a stretch, it’s facial expression only) and played audio of a voice saying “maybe” in an angry, happy or neutral tone. Then he made very specific conclusions about those very narrow situations.

He did not prove anything about general communication nor did he claim to. That’s just what a bunch of scam artist idiots have interpreted it as and you probably picked it up from some of them.

Try going to maths lectures and getting 93% from facial expression and tone. You will fail the exam.

You could have googled that first and then you wouldn’t look like ignorant twats for doubling down... I guess that's my fault too. lol


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Fact: I’m the most helpful and most highly praised member of this forum ever.

You clearly haven’t read the studies. He basically showed a photo of an angry, happy or neutral face (only the face not the whole body and only a photo not in motion, the so to say body language is a stretch, it’s facial expression only) and played audio of a voice saying “maybe” in an angry, happy or neutral tone. Then he made very specific conclusions about those very narrow situations.

He did not prove anything about general communication nor did he claim to. That’s just what a bunch of scam artist idiots have interpreted it as and you probably picked it up from some of them.

Try going to maths lectures and getting 93% from facial expression and tone. You will fail the exam.

You could have googled that first and then you wouldn’t look like ignorant twats for doubling down... I guess that's my fault too. lol


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Interesting but not surprising this stat wasn't based on much. The point remains non-verbals are very important. Trump wouldn't have got in office if without being on another level to Hillary in his gesticulation. Her fake smile in the debates was unbelievably cringe.

Had a FWB record a bunch of infield back in 2014 and it was useful af to see a couple things I could improve, same with audio. I've got an audio recording I show clients closing a chick while her date was getting her ice cream, with the premise being a threesome with my girlfriend (at the time) hahaha.

Shame how youtube has basically shadow banned infield. At the same time it's so cringy most of the time anyways... Anyone seen LAHWF? Brilliant exercises to get you out your comfort zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZqC8h9wh8M&t=290s
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Default 02-12-2020, 08:18 PM

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You clearly haven’t read the studies. He basically showed a photo of an angry, happy or neutral face (only the face not the whole body and only a photo not in motion, the so to say body language is a stretch, it’s facial expression only) and played audio of a voice saying “maybe” in an angry, happy or neutral tone. Then he made very specific conclusions about those very narrow situations.

You could have googled that first and then you wouldn’t look like ignorant twats for doubling down... I guess that's my fault too. lol


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I wasnt refereing to his studies literally, I was using Body language in the broader sense, anything other than verbal is deemed Body language, this includes facial expresions too.

But as usual you have to try and belittle people, you yourself would be fucked without Google to give your pseudo superiority.

As you are so hot on Psychology literature you should look up the works of Alfred Adler and his superiority and inferiority complex works he describes you perfectly.
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