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First date : drinks and conversation ..escalated as was sitting close to her and kiss closed .

2nd date : later that same week , did a fun activity ..kept things light and fun , 2 hours later suggested back to my place which she gave intial resistance but then followed my lead of a movie and drinks ,got back to my place ..straight to my room ...no LMR , sealed the deal !

Nice one on the second date

Had a tinder date last night, was talking for two hours about various things she was laughing we were drinking all seemingly went well sat progressively next to her, at the end of the date she doesn't want to arrange another date and I ask for a kiss and the end and was denied. I have other successful closes but they are always with foreign girls.

Do you reckon I'm not reading the nuances and should simply ask back for wine?

Never ask for a kiss , just do it ! Asking is weak , especially on the first date !

If the moment doesn't feel right to go in for a kiss at the end of the date I ask for a kiss, it puts the girl more at ease, if she gets a shock if you go in for one she's not expecting it can put her off more

No It doesn't.
Never ask for a kiss.
Kiss or don't kiss.

If you're 'putting girls off' by 'being unexpected', that's on you.
It's a date. What the fuck is off putting or unexpected about a kiss?


Peace,

kowalski

Yeah asking for a kiss on a date is like level zero do-not-do shit

If you're asking for a kiss on dates, you have a whole load of other shit to fix first