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Default FR: Value + First Class Wingmanship! - 06-02-2010, 11:46 AM

Me and my friends K and M went out, same trio as last time.

K: student of 'the game' and 'the layguide'
M: non PUA but natural and very open/respectful to PUA

a good balance there...


So we go out, and hit three bars... the first bar, was probably the most target rich, and was our most successful as a group. Infact we had been meandering around as if looking for people we knew and just taking pauses drinking chatting, fine...

for some reason, my friend M started talking about Russel Brand, and i clocked two HB7s next to him... just as K and myself started commenting on Russel Brand, i stopped them, leant back slightly, and said to the two HB7s 'hey, fancy giving us a ladies opinion on something...?'

'Sure'

'OK, we were just debating, Russel Brand... Attractive or NOT?'

Complete Authenticity, and something to be gained form their answer... they answered, negatively, which was kind of a bummer, as to keep conversation going, we had to bring the positive sides to the argument, which wasnt great for three guys.... I do however feel that the set werent that interested, they were older, and i think they werent out to be pulled..... anyways, no harm done, that was the first opener of the night, and important to get the ball rolling...

We then played the Russel Brand opener to a couple of other 2-sets, with much better remarks, younger girls who actually liked him, were more positive.. and it lead onto conversations about, fashion, haircuts, films, all sorts of harmless conversations!

Then, the main highlight for me as a Wingman.

I saw a girl i knew, and her mate, who i dont know and have seen around. The girl i knew is an 8, and her mate is a 9+. Absolutely stunning little blonde girl, cute, lovely little firgure, good rocky fashion style, amazing smile and eyes...

I thought, i cant crack this, but i got 2 guys with me, one of them could, so i go in to the girl i know, get chatting. She sees me as kind of non-threatening, and we always have a nice little chat, so its safe... I introduced my friends, and gave them some value, then we were all politely conversing... BREAK*... i interrupt everyone and bring out Russel Brand, and we get the best two reacitons of the ngiht, they immediately are smiling, and light up, with all sorts of of stuff theyre coming out with, about why they like him etc... anyways we start talking about who the girls look like, and this HB9+ looks like shakira. me and my mate both say it, then M, says to her.. 'no, Sienna Miller'... and she loves it, she high-fives him, smiles and stands next to him... (IOI City)

anyways they declare they are going elsewhere with a group and ask us to come... we all politely decline and say we'll catch up with them later!!!

5 minutes later, another girl (part of their group) comes up to us, (specifically my mate M) and says, 'hey you know my friend you were talking to (9+) well she wants me to give you her number'...

...The Easiest #Close Ive Ever Seen.... SHE CLOSED HIM!!

this really made my night, as i can honestly say, ive seen that little 9+ around for a while, and always considered her a as really hard2get ice-queen... however, with some good cooperation and a harmless opener, ive helped someone crack-on with her!

We saw them again later, in the next bar, and they were still eye-fucking the shit out of us! Job Done...

Then i see a Upgraded HB8 who i sarged on new years. Hopefully it wasnt AlcoVision, but she looked way hotter than when i last sarged her! Upgraded form 7 to 8 or maybe 8.5...

She was kinda awkward becasue i let her go, because she was a bit keen before, and i said i was just looking for fun, so i friend-zoned her... of course i hadnt really seen her since then, but i got talking, and at first she was shy, so i talked ot her m8, whos a HB8M (MILF) and she was really friendly (which gave me the impresison id been sighted by them prior to me noticing, and they were still ok with me) so i was just nice and authentic, chatted about fun stuff... then my m8 came over, and we just valued each other, we started talking about Salsa Dancing, which i know this HB8 does, me and my mate K started pretending to salsa dance with each other, and i was mock-lecutring him, saying 'no you need to hold my hand like this etc' and getting into a position, which wonderfully provoked the girl to stepping in and correcting us, mainly me, which generated auto-kino!!!

By this time we had a few other m8s in the area and our value was high, so we could move around easily from group to group sarging...

I started sarging a three set (7, and 2 6's) nothign special, but fun, then salsa girl clocked me, and was eye-fucking the shit out of me, so i playfully dropped the three set came over and just got myself a drink, she got a drink aswell, then the barman, (whos a sound geezer) was chatting to us both, so i got in 2 shots... we did them and then we were comfort talking... she gave me a kiss on the cheek then left...


Cab Ride home, she starts texting me, about stuff, like why did u not want to go out with me, i only wanted fun! etc etc

i playfully said about how i could never go out with someone who could beat me at dancing etc...

then told her that i owed her a bday present and she replied with words to the effect of, well when are you going to give it to me!

So one text either way, and we're going to be hooking up tonight! No problems, im back in the game with her!!!!



Good Night.

I got a little something, the Team Got Something!!!

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Default 06-02-2010, 11:56 AM

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salsa girl clocked me, and was eye-fucking the shit out of me
Nice Wedding Crashers reference Pic

Sounds like a decent night. From what I've read on here, it seems like you're progressing at this game really quickly. What's even more encouraging is that you seem to be almost naturally moving towards the natural method. You're still opinion opening but you're making it more spontaneous and situation-relevant.

Good stuff, keep it up!


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Default 06-02-2010, 12:34 PM

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Nice Wedding Crashers reference Pic
"I'm a Cocksman!!!"

hehe, yep its deffo more natural now, im never going to fuoyl shrug off openers and routines, because i think they have their worth, although once established, natural game comes... naturally?! lol

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Default 06-02-2010, 01:07 PM

Sounds like a good night Pic. You're mates sound awesome!! man, wish I had a set-up like that round here. You sound like a great wingman, there's unfortunately not enough guys like you about. Alot of people don't realise that if you give value to others you shall also recieve it, reaping what you sow. A night out with mates doesn't have to be a power-struggle of 'one-up manship' that is lame and counterintuitive.


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Default 06-02-2010, 08:57 PM

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Nice Wedding Crashers reference Pic

Sounds like a decent night. From what I've read on here, it seems like you're progressing at this game really quickly. What's even more encouraging is that you seem to be almost naturally moving towards the natural method. You're still opinion opening but you're making it more spontaneous and situation-relevant.

Good stuff, keep it up!
Spot on...canned stuff as icebreakers is helpful most situations but the more spontanteous, the easier to generate flow without even realising. All about working it up throughout...excellent work picard.
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Default 07-02-2010, 01:16 PM

I didn't mean to slate the Bristol crew at all, those guys are sound. I meant the guys where I live in a small city 25 miles away from Bristol. Was out with a few last night, every set I opened one of my mates who's a right chode would come in and blow the sets out by coming in and saying 'Is he trying to chat you up?' That is lame shit. Another friend of mine came out as well last night and I managed to get him opening sets and I was winging him, he has some potential looking forward to taking him out again.

But most of my friends here you could write what they know about women/game on the back of a postage stamp!


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Default 07-02-2010, 03:34 PM

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would result in the termination of our friendship and possibly a slap.
Sounds dreadful!


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Default 07-02-2010, 06:54 PM

yeah its an odd one though... when the news comes out you ditched a mate because he ruins your game (fair excuse) it will be seen by the eyes of the average joe as... 'women are more importantt o you that your friends' ...even though, it was your supposed freidns chodish actions that ruin your chance,s and they always seem to get away with it...

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Default 07-02-2010, 08:53 PM

I'm sure I'm stating the obvious to most on here but this kind of behavior is usually a desperate, flailing, attempt to get involved in the interaction. It comes from a place of neediness.

A mate see's you in an interaction with some hbs. He doesn't have the balls to open himself. He is acutely aware he is standing like a chode while you are doing what he wishes he could.

He then works up half a testicle ,comes over, and tries to be high status and funny, by bagging you out to the girls.

Of course you now both look bad.

It would be a lot better all round if he just came over and said "Hi". However that would be an honest, putting your ego on the line, commitment to the interaction. It's much easier and risks less to wander over acting like you don't care, like you are above the situation, and take the piss.

To be honest I got this a lot in the past but very rarely anymore, my close friends wouldn't do it, they're not perfect but are past the point of pulling shit like this. I think if it happened I would say to the guy straight out "Look mate, if you want to come and chat to the girls with me that's great but don't fuck up my shit". They'll act like they don't know what you're talking about but I would hope it would get the point across. Remember, if you're opening they want to be in your good books.

If this didn't work they would have to get a bit of an ego damaging talking to.


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Default 07-02-2010, 08:57 PM

Ks post reminds me of the old Mandela qoute "There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you."


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