Thanks for the comments Barney.

Minds come up with reasons (excuses) not to do things all the time. And if we gave into them all the time we would all be leading a pretty miserable existence. But as we're all human we do give into them sometimes. But you're right that you can't let these thoughts rule over you.

I didn't put the full interaction in the post btw. When I said "I need to get back to work, I'm late already, can I take your number so I can contact you" She said "No, sorry, I'm with someone" I didn't catch the last bit so said "Sorry?" and she repeated "I'm with someone".

The tone (which I can't express here obviously) was quite clear that she was letting me down as gently as she could. She was enjoying the intention and thought I was a decent guy I think but wasn't open.

I've been ejecting too soon on previous ones and know this was to avoid disappointment but I realise I've got to get used to that eventually to progress.

Personally I'd tweak what you said to her a little for next time to:
"I need to get back to work, I'm late already, give me your number/facebook *(up to you which one)* so we can continue our conversation".

I understand you feel to exit when she is letting you down gently but then why not put a swing on the interaction and come from a friend standpoint.

May as well try to counteract, absolutely nothing to loose, just do it with a smile.


Kind of a weird way but I used online sites to overcome rejection, now it doesn't bother me as much.
As a Arsenal fan said to me in France whilst we were watching Arsenal against Fenerbache, "Northerners are great, Newcastle people are the best, better than us miserable fucks in London".

Amit1207 - thanks. I go to the gym 2 or 3 times a week.

Barney - thnx for the tip. The way you put it there sounds better, I'll try that. I think the version I did was a more timid sounding.

My FB profile is shit, I need to get that sorted.

Roosh V reckoned if he wasn't getting rejections that meant he wasn't doing enough approaches.

Mate with regards to day game you gotta get it in your head-Girls will APPRECIATE the interaction. Well at least 99% of them. Even if they dont "fancy" you or a are married or whatever the confidence of going up to them and beginning a conversation will naturally impress them. Keep this in mind rather than negative thoughts. And if your ever around London give me a shout we will go sarging together . Peace x

5/9/13 - Thursday

For today’s lunch break outing I had set myself a target of 4 approaches, double yesterday’s. But it didn’t start well. I had trouble finding suitable women to approach for some reason. Most lone females I saw I either didn’t find them attractive enough to want to approach or they were teenage girls, too old, pregnant, with kids, etc.

I think this area isn’t so good. I’ll need to find a new place, a shopping mall or something. But I pressed on. I know what I’m looking for as soon as a see’s it.

1 - Eventually after about 15 mins walking I see her, a cute tidy blonde in a black sort of mini-dress thing zipped up the side, wide brimmed sun hat and gigantic shades. I thought she looked really cool like something out of one of them old French arty farty movies. She’s coming down a long flight of stairs that I’m walking towards (the stairs lead from the bridge over the river down to the riverbank where I was walking). I headed over and positioned myself at the bottom of the stairs almost in her path so I could step in front if she didn’t stop when I spoke. I was determined she wasn’t slipping past with a “no” or something.

I had to almost shout cause she was still half way up the stairs and I wanted to be sure she heard me before she got too close.

Me “Excuse me”

She looks up and as she gets to the bottom she stops beside me.

Me: Hi...I saw you coming down the stairs there and I...

She butted in at this point and says “oh hi, it’s you, how are you?”
Then she takes her gigantic shades off. (I had taken mine off before I shouted)

Her: “Oh sorry, but you do look familiar”

Me: “Do I?” (with a grin)

She’s looking at me with a cute and confused expression.

Me: “The reason I stopped you is because I saw you coming down those stairs and I just wanted to come over here and tell you that you are really cute”

I can’t describe her reaction really at all in print, it was like part ecstatic laugh, part shriek, part sigh or something. I’m sure she thought I was taking the piss at first, then realised it was genuine. It obviously took her totally by surprise.

She touched my arm then my hand ( tried to give her hand a squeeze but she managed to avoid that) and said “You’re so sweet but I have to meet someone now, sorry” and she runs off saying thanks as she goes. I think she was an ozzy. It's as if she had never had this happen to her before.

I got a real buzz from this one and felt warmed up after it.

2 – A petite Indian looking girl sitting on a low wall under some trees eating her lunch with some other people doing the same but there was a big enough space beside her for me. I wondered if the other people would be able to overhear but I wasn’t too bothered if they did.

I sat down next to her and just start talking about how nice and cool it was there in the shade.

We had a brief exchange about the weather. I rambled on about my holiday plans. She offers some advice on where to go. She didn’t make eye contact much. She just looked straight ahead. It maybe didn’t help we both had shades on (even though we were in the shade!). I probably should have taken mine off to encourage her to do the same (I need some EC to interact properly). I asked her if she worked around here, she said ‘yes’.

She wasn’t elaborating on anything. I got a strong feeling she wasn’t single or wasn’t interested so after another few minutes of me doing most of the talking I said take care and left. She waved and said bye.

I don’t really like approaching when someone who is eating when I’m not. It seems a bit rude. I think I didn’t go for a close because there was no EC or IOI. I tried to avoid interviewing her but ended up just talking about myself instead (Guys is that okay for daygame conv or should you avoid getting into the all about me rut?). Maybe if I had had more time and just kept talking she would have gradually opened up.

3 – This one went a bit wrong. A really pretty Chinese looking girl sitting on a bench. I sat down and was just planning to say ‘your cute’ then leave as I needed to get back to work and needed another one to hit my target approaches.

It was only when I sat down I realised she had earphones in. I said excuse me quite loud and held my hand out but she didn’t hear me. So I tried to touch her gently on the arm to get her attention, but as I reached across to do that she grabbed her bag which was on the bench between us.

She must have thought I was trying to snatch her bag cause she jumped a bit and put her hand on it. She took one of her headphones out and looked at me, she looked scared. I said ‘it’s okay, it’s okay’. The opener was well fucked. She half smiled and realised I wasn’t a tea leaf but she was rattled a bit after that, put her earphone back in and continued what she was doing, which was writing in a journal.

When I had first sat down I noticed she was writing in Chinese characters, so maybe she didn’t have very good English. She didn’t seem to understand me when I said it’s okay the first time but she seemed to get that I wasn’t a danger.

Phew! Felt a bit creepy after that one so I headed back to work. As I was almost there it was as if the PUA gods had put before me a test. This tall HB9-10 came strutting in my direction. She was about early 30's I would say but looked had done pro modelling the way she walked. She even made EC with me but I didn't stop her or even say hi because I thought about it. I need to stop that.

I’m getting more confident with the approaches. Some pretty basic mistakes I think. Here’s what I think I learned from these approaches today:

1- This was my fist head on approach. If I see one that I really like coming towards me I’ve got to use confident body language and voice to get them to stop. I if it’s too timid it’s more likely to creep them out or scare them off (like with the Chinese girl).

2- Don’t approach someone who is eating, unless you are eating as well, then it’s more like you are having lunch together. Also take sunglasses off and make EC, they’ll likely reciprocate.

3- I need to make sure they can see me approaching so if they have earplugs in they will see my lips moving and EC and know they’re being talked to, then they’ll probably remove them.

Just a little advice for future long posts
Many people won't read big posts without it been well spaced out and easy to read. I'd recommend multiple posts for the different approaches. Then it doesn't look like such a massive page of text to read.



I like the progress your making dude and just for your improvement why not talk to all girls you find attractive, even the ones that are pregnant or whatever? I've approached a few like this. My goal from the conversation is to meet new people, to enjoy the conversation and make her day happier. Of course it depends on your goals you have right now, are you wanting fun conversation? Are you wanting to find a girlfriend? A fuck buddy? Whatever, but if your goal now is to create conversation, make friends and stuff like that then why not branch out to the women you'd suspect are not interested sexually. Women can make new friends.


I particularly liked your 3rd approach, her thinking you were going to steal her bag is kinda funny. Though your reaction must of been hilarious, you probably could have saved the conversation if she spoke English. Doesn't really matter though because you've already understood how you can improve (approach head on).

Nice work man!

Glad to hear you didn't make an excuse out of the fact she was wearing headphones. If I ever approach a girl with earphones I'll usher her to take them out with by miming the action myself. She will do it automatically to see what you want.

Sharp analysis. Love it.

It was an indirect opener.

It is verbose I agree. I had put in that the zip waz gold but decided to take that out for the sake of brevity. I don't speak like that tho.

I don't remember the opener word for word but she got the message ok. I'll gamble all she will remember is a guy stopped her and said she was cute. You're splitting hairs a bit on the words used.

But helpful advice K on report writing and point taken. I want folk to read them. I'lll take more time with them so hopefully they will be better/easier to read.