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It has come to my attention that there needs to be a section for beginners, as some new guys are becoming overwhelmed by the advice given by senior members.

Sometimes it's hard to remember exactly what it's like when starting out. Remembering actually using those canned routines, false time constraints and scripted openers seems comical. Surely, the natural method works better right? Well, there was a reason we used fake canned shit. It worked.

New guys don't need to be told to be confident, alpha or natural. They're not ready for that. They want tools they can use so they can focus their attention on just opening and interacting with girls.

There are guys signing up who have never talked to girls in clubs that they have just met.

So, should we have a 'Beginners' section?

Is this going to be the same as the Phone/Text/online section poll?

i like the idea! it mean u know when to give what advice.

there should also probably be a frequent response list so instead of sayin the same old shit! we can refer them to threads.

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Originally Posted by daleinthedark (Post 59918)

Is this going to be the same as the Phone/Text/online section poll?

In what way?
Yes, it's identical in purpose. To put an idea out to public vote.

A couple of concerned members approached me regarding this and I think it is an urgent matter as new guys are getting put off by this.

I think maybe a noob section could be a good idea:biggthumpup:
Tho the canned shit being a focus im less unsure about.Although i still know very little i am purposefully doing my best to rely on the advice of guys on this forum who are where i want to be and avoiding all canned material at all costs!!
I want to try to skip that whole area, yes i am well aware i may fall on my arse much more but i am also aware i will got to where i need to be a lot quicker!!
Shouldnt this be a focus for other noobs also,to just skip the bullshit and aim for authenticity??

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Originally Posted by Tw1sted (Post 59987)

It was just a sly joke that we never got a text/phone game forum.

I do however think it's a good idea to have a beginner's area, it doesn't even have to be solely about canned game etc. but a starting block would be useful...

having mulled this over for twenty seconds - Yes. Like Jamm says there IS a certain structure to a successful pull and then there are behavioural factors to become aware of also. newb principles probably are getting lost in other posts, how are they supposed to learn the punch in the face opener if they cant find it?

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 59992)

I disagree that canned 'works', that you need to start with it, that it is in some way useful or valuable, etc., and these are topics hotly debated on the forum. To make a section for noobs to be given canned-focused advice closes those debates permanently.

The structure of the forum itself would be explicitly aligned to the view that noobs need canned and that it in some way 'works' or is useful or valuable.

Concerned members should put their views publicly on the forum and let their ideas live or die in open debate. There are plenty of forums for that sort of thing, this place is something different.

What specifically are these two members' concerns? Is it to do with declining forum traffic, or something else?

Peace,

kowalski

it does work k, but in a diff way

it works because the noobs think its a magic bullet... therefore giving them confidence to approach. Eventually they realise

"Oh i can pretty much say anythin here" but u cant tell them that. they gotta work it out alone

infact if you put somethin in the nood section I.e

* this section is for the new guys, once u realise that the canned material isnt what works, but you...

once you realise that the words you say when you approach dont matter & you can pretty much say anythin as long as ur awesome...

then stay in this section.... once u are ready to accept that PUA isnt about lines, & material & its about being awsome

& finaly.... once u have approached a shit load of women... & been told to fuck off.... or fucked them... it doesnt matter the outcome,

but once you have realised after lots of approached that the words are just 7% of their meaning... and the rest is just you!!

then move on to the main section. Untill then.... keep note of how many bitches floss & let us know when you wanna take the big steps**

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 60014)

it does work k, but in a diff way

it works because the noobs think its a magic bullet... therefore giving them confidence to approach.

It sounds to me like you are volunteering to guide these noobs through the murky depths of the Mystery Method in this new section of the forum Phil.

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Originally Posted by nova (Post 60021)

It sounds to me like you are volunteering to guide these noobs through the murky depths of the Mystery Method in this new section of the forum Phil.

no, just allow them to talk about the shit they are going to talk about anyway.

at least when they come to hearing what we have to say, they dont just shit & leave the forum.

if there is an explanation that we wer all there... then now we are here.. i think it will allow them to put stock in what we say.

at present people come & go coz we are disagreeing with the new found religion that is PUA

Everyone needs help... especially if they are naive enuff to think people wernt gettin laid b4 PUA