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Default 23-12-2016, 12:09 AM

Regarding contracting it really depends on what industry your in, what your skills are & your experience. So its a bit of an untrue blanket statement to say few people can get & maintain the work. I know guys who have been doing it for 10/8/6 years no problem with no large gaps; guys I've worked with who have done it since the 90's.

I myself am coming upto 3 years & the longest I've been out of work is 3 weeks in that period. The project Im working on for my client is for 4 years, it doesn't mean I'll be there that long but I'm in no danger of it finishing any time soon. They are already talking about potential after work from 2020 onwards.
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Default 24-12-2016, 02:26 PM

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Regarding contracting it really depends on what industry your in, what your skills are & your experience. So its a bit of an untrue blanket statement to say few people can get & maintain the work. I know guys who have been doing it for 10/8/6 years no problem with no large gaps; guys I've worked with who have done it since the 90's.
I was thinking more about my industry true. But it's perfectly true to say that, in general, few people can get and maintain contract work.

Exceptional pay filters for exceptional candidates, and the reason for that pay is generally tight deadlines, demand for exceptional skill and/or scarce availability of candidates.

The majority of work across industries is fixed-location permanent roles, and personally the only guys I've ever seen in long term contracting are prodigies, like top 0.1% guys.

More to the point this goes back to how much it pisses me off when pickup coaches advise men, especially younger men, to just quit their job and become a 'digital nomad'.

Sure you can work towards that, but ultimately it's something a tiny minority of guys are capable of achieving.

It's internet marketing bullshit. Maintaining a lifestyle by selling guys on the dream of having that lifestyle.
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Default 18-08-2017, 10:32 PM

Affiliate marketing, dropshipping and matched betting are the three most legit ways to make money online from home. I'd add trading instruments, but that's full to the brim with scam artists and is risky af!
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Default 18-08-2017, 11:48 PM

I've been looking into dropshipping and hoped to launch an online store inside the next 2 weeks (I'm now on annual leave).

But I've hit a brick wall as I am finding it almost impossible to find suppliers in the UK.

I'm extremely reluctant to use Chinese suppliers due to the ridiculous shipping times.

This particular world is also full of scams.


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Default 19-08-2017, 12:21 AM

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I've been looking into dropshipping and hoped to launch an online store inside the next 2 weeks (I'm now on annual leave).

But I've hit a brick wall as I am finding it almost impossible to find suppliers in the UK.

I'm extremely reluctant to use Chinese suppliers due to the ridiculous shipping times.

This particular world is also full of scams.
So long as you state on the product descriptions how long the product will take, then you're golden. Customers usually don't care anyway.

You're making your life harder by excluding Chinese suppliers anyway.

How are you going to dropship? A website? Ebay? Amazon?
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Default 19-08-2017, 01:05 AM

I was hoping to avoid using Chinese suppliers like Aliexpress simply because there's so many people/merchants already using it. I hoped to build something better and more efficient, that wouldn't have the drawbacks of these far away suppliers.

Unless of course I can find a very niche market that few, if any, are doing.

Shipping from Aliexpress, most products are labelled as having a default 30/50 day delivery time. Which is laughable. Even the epacket delivery option, which is meant to cut it down to 12-20 days (which wouldn't be so bad) usually come with such a high shipping cost that you'd actually be making a loss. Not unless you were selling very high value items in the hundreds of pounds/dollars, because that way an 8/12 dollar shipping fee might not make such a dent in your margins. Whereas if your products are 40/50 quid, the shipping fee would kill you. And you don't really want products to be more than 50 or 60 quid cos I don't think many people would buy an expensive electrical device with the knowledge that its from China and with a significant shipping time.

I'm unsure of a lot of things and the more I think about it the more concerned I get. Part of me is trying to talk myself out of it. So I think it might be a good idea to just say fuck it and launch something. Could be worth a try.

I'll be building my own website but not from absolute scratch cos I'm not an IT wizzkid. I'll use a web hosting service, who take care of all the technically wizardry for the monthly fee.


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Default 05-10-2017, 11:48 PM

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I was hoping to avoid using Chinese suppliers like Aliexpress simply because there's so many people/merchants already using it. I hoped to build something better and more efficient, that wouldn't have the drawbacks of these far away suppliers.

Unless of course I can find a very niche market that few, if any, are doing.

Shipping from Aliexpress, most products are labelled as having a default 30/50 day delivery time. Which is laughable. Even the epacket delivery option, which is meant to cut it down to 12-20 days (which wouldn't be so bad) usually come with such a high shipping cost that you'd actually be making a loss. Not unless you were selling very high value items in the hundreds of pounds/dollars, because that way an 8/12 dollar shipping fee might not make such a dent in your margins. Whereas if your products are 40/50 quid, the shipping fee would kill you. And you don't really want products to be more than 50 or 60 quid cos I don't think many people would buy an expensive electrical device with the knowledge that its from China and with a significant shipping time.

I'm unsure of a lot of things and the more I think about it the more concerned I get. Part of me is trying to talk myself out of it. So I think it might be a good idea to just say fuck it and launch something. Could be worth a try.

I'll be building my own website but not from absolute scratch cos I'm not an IT wizzkid. I'll use a web hosting service, who take care of all the technically wizardry for the monthly fee.
How did you get on with this endeavour?
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Default 06-10-2017, 01:04 AM

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How did you get on with this endeavour?
It's actually now on the back burner until May when I complete my degree.

I hoped to do both on the side but I realised it was too ambitious. So I decided to focus on, and finish the degree first. Then I can focus 100% on business instead of trying to juggle them both.

I have an idea for a physical, store based business and an idea for an online one. I'll get back to them when I can.


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Default 06-10-2017, 04:52 PM

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It's actually now on the back burner until May when I complete my degree.

I hoped to do both on the side but I realised it was too ambitious. So I decided to focus on, and finish the degree first. Then I can focus 100% on business instead of trying to juggle them both.

I have an idea for a physical, store based business and an idea for an online one. I'll get back to them when I can.
Fair doos. The same goes for me. I'm too skint to do it. I had to scale back my shopify sub too, which in itself shows how skint I really am.

5 a day per product, testing 2-3 products per day is how much you should spent on FB advertising. 105 a week on just 3 products. That's ridiculous!

Sure it will come back eventually, but something silly like 1 in 100 products are good sellers. Also when taking into account the fact that even if you're making sales, said sales must take into account the marketing cost, the product cost and postage, other wise you're going to make a loss. It seems logical enough but alot of people trip up on that.

I've made about 40 in sales in total all from a single campaign. I've spent about 500 on advertising alone. That campaign was a fluke and I made a loss.
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Default 09-10-2017, 10:02 PM

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Fair doos. The same goes for me. I'm too skint to do it. I had to scale back my shopify sub too, which in itself shows how skint I really am.

5 a day per product, testing 2-3 products per day is how much you should spent on FB advertising. 105 a week on just 3 products. That's ridiculous!

Sure it will come back eventually, but something silly like 1 in 100 products are good sellers. Also when taking into account the fact that even if you're making sales, said sales must take into account the marketing cost, the product cost and postage, other wise you're going to make a loss. It seems logical enough but alot of people trip up on that.

I've made about 40 in sales in total all from a single campaign. I've spent about 500 on advertising alone. That campaign was a fluke and I made a loss.
What were you selling on shopify?

I planned/plan to use the UK based web host known as EKM. One of them told me it was reasonable to set a budget of 20 quid per week for FB advertising. I don't know exactly how it works, although 5 quid a day works out at 150 per month which is not extortionate if you were actually making money back.


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