NLP Business Partners
 

Hi,

I'm giving some serious thought to setting up a small but hopefully growing and profitable NLP training business in 2014. It's just something I'm exploring - just wondering if there's anyone on this site that might be interested in joining me in some way - I plan on investing relatively small amounts of money intitially but this can increase as, hopefully, the business does.

I'd hope to combine training courses at some location with ONLINE courses sent out to people: that's where the real money due to numbers could come in.

I know for a fact that this business model works the only issue is getting it running ad getting the right human resources.

Please free to put forward any suggestions/comments.

I'm in. Lets rinse people for money.

I dunno why everyones getting on his back. NLP is a perfectly legitimate practice.

He isnt pedalling.

I wanna know ur qualifications

Im friends with Uber haha I wanna go into business too.

Is not that NLP doesn't have any practical benefits, it's that the whole training industry is a bit unethical in my opinion. There is a a whole pyramid selling vibe to it and the people it attracts are usually quite vulnerable and looking for a silver bullet cure all, it's remarkable like the PUA training in that sense.

That's not to say it couldn't be done right I s'ppose but having just a NLP practitioner/master practitioner certificate isn't enough, the visualisations, the little slight of mouth techniques and reframes have to be used with genuine empathetic counselling as well for it to be truly effective.

Unless you want to just teach how to give a better presentation or give sales ppl a hard on letting them think they havr Jedi powers, then sound :-D

He called it modelling. Taking somethin already in use and transfering it to ur skill set...

also known as Stealing or plagiarism. NLP is basically suggestion and hypnosis with loads of shit stuck in the middle to make it cult like

Guys - first of all THANKS for your responses. OK, it's difficult to get everything across on this site but I'm going to be FRANK. First, I basically agree with Framejacker etc about how there's an unethical element to it and how it's all BULLSHIT...ok so this is the part which makes me seem really bad. Right, erm, basically 1. I CURRENTLY have no specific qualifications in this - that's why I mentioned wanting human resources!!; 2. My interest has been created because I have a friend - a blonde bimbo who is making a KILLING out of this: she teaches bullshit classes but where the money is really POURING in is via online sales of materials and some kind of so called qualifications...I'm not gonna mention her site/location etc apart from its in the North West. Apparently she's even using elance.com to get stuff written and then she just markets it. Frankly, I'm a lot smarter and more capabale than her and I figure why should she be making all the money lol....I'm sorry but frankly I want some of it! She's got nearly £500k liquid in the bank now - although she's been working on it with a partner for the past 10 years, but its the online courses where she's gaining a massive passive income now. So, I'm sorry guys but I wanna be better off financially! I'm starting to see colleagues building up their businesses and having fun and making money and frankly I'm considering copying them and getting in on the act!! Ok, so I await your criticisms, jokes, and condemnations! If anyone has other business ideas, especially ones which are fun, then feel free to give me a shout - I can invest up to £2k/month for the first year or borrow up to £200k initially.

Im game for anythin thats money making

This is why I love Jaz. Will you marry me.

People buy clothes thinking it'll make them happy.

Seriously though, uber Ill give you a ring on tuesday or wednesday, you always ring me at work haha

Just a quick one… I m meeting up with that NLP practitioner tonight for a general chat and I was just wondering if anyone could simplify what NLP is.

What is it?

How it works?

What fields its used in?

And anything else you can think of to help me out. Ive googled it and read up on a few things but I just want to clear it up in my own head.

Kowalski - fair point.I'd say three things to that. 1. Arguably any kind of business is AMORAL rather than moral or immoral; 2. Although I personally believe it's bullshit, selling snake oil - at the same time it could be argued that some of it isn't, some of it is common sense etc but not necessarily bullshit, and also there do appear to be people who do the courses and genuinely seem to get something out of it. Finally, I'm looking for high numbers of sales - hence the online sales - and so pricing products as low as possible but to a relatively large market rather than screwing people over with very large fees. So, personally, I'm not sure it fully fits the category of "scam" albeit I'd accept and respect people's critical comments. Of course, you could say the fashion, perfume, celebrity business etc is all a "scam" if you want to bring ethics into it...My view is business is amoral, like I said, if an arguably moral entity like the government has an issue with something then they have the power to regulate or stop and business entity...

i thought the only money to be made in NLP is via training, ergo the whole pyramid selling air to it.

I wouldn't waste your time or your money to be honest mate, it will cost you 1400 to 1500 to get your practitioners certificate, another 2000 or so to get your master practitioners, then another 3000 or so to get your trainers training, so that you can register your self with NLP international, which cost Mo' Money. then you have to find an area, that isn't already saturated, and set up shop.

NLP might be bullshit but its' highly trademarked bullshit, and in order to begin making money from it you need to pay shed loads to make sure you are all "legit" and badged. This is its core business model!

As for taking all the other aspects and learning them to make money is also asinine, as all the other techniques that are therapeutic, i.e. counselling and life coaching ect ect. take a long time to master and arent very profitable.

also if you try and set yourself up teaching "NLP" type stuff without it being called NLP, ppl wont buy it as it will lack the "brand power", even though you may be teaching the same shit.

Easier to start a church or a cult

can anyone help me on this? im meeting him at 6?

NLP is a intellectual model for how the brain works in essence, all the perceived tricks/techniques are like hacks for this model.

it is also a means to look at and cognitize how ppl interact and communicate, with ppl having differing representational systems (aka thinking), i.e. some ppl maybe more visually(seeing) orientated, other audioally(hearing) and kinesthetically (feeling). ppl use differing language depending on which they are, so your msg might not be a clear if you are being all visual and shit when they are a kinesthetic person and they really need the "feels" like.

also there are much more intricate modes of internal representation systems(thinking) i.e meta model vs milton, big picture vs details, dicks vs vaginas.

there are a few decent proverbs that NLP has borrowed from other places like

"The map is not the territory" and "those who have the most flexible mode of communication will get there message across... or something like that.


there is loads more to it, I'm sure the guy will be more that happy to tell you the in's and out's of a duck's arse with regards to it, NLPers usually do ;-)

also if he asks you to take a "New direction" don't, cause your arse will never be the same after lol

Framejacker - what's your background with NLP? You obviously know your stuff?

I've Read NLP for dummies, the brain: a users guide (master practitioner textbook), structure of magic 1 and 2 (1st 2 books by bandler and grinder), frogs into princes (by bandler), hypnosis: a comprehensive guide by tad james, hypnotherapey by Dave Elman. Been to loads of NLP practice sessions run by a local trainer, learn a bit of hypnosis as well.

But it's like anything you have to filter out the horse shit and look to what was the original inspirations, like Milton Erickson, virginia satir, fritz and Laura Perls, Carl Jung and Norman Chompsky.

^ example, no one really has a preferred representational system

And there is little evidence that the is an actual correlation between eye cues and there internal representation system

Think he must be taking a "new direction" as we speak...

ha ha, I've heard from jynx...meeting him tomorrow - hopefully you'll hear from him again after that, or it puts me down as a suspect...

Framejacker - that's impressive, you know your shit. What is it you do for a living to engage yourself fully as a member of the human race?

At the minute am finishing a PhD in organic chemistry, but after september am unemployed, got to get my arse into gear and get a job soon enough.

ah ok, well I'm sure you'll sort something decent out with all those decent qualifications but if the post PhD world starts pissing you off, just give me a shout and we can get you on board!

what do u know about nlp mate? are you qualified?

Ha ha, thanks Kowalski - yep, within the next few months I'm looking into taking some courses but, in truth, I don't plan on becoming an 'expert' per se, I'll recruit those - my side will be more business administration etc.