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Default 08-10-2018, 10:34 PM

Stein, your post has a lot of validity, but it is tailored to an experienced guy. If someone says they have never had a girlfriend or sex, I would not start with the expectation of getting laid on the first date. It took me half a year of dating until I finally had sex on the first date and even now it's far from guaranteed for me.

Obviously we have to come across as fun on the chat. But once she agrees to go on a date, I think it's best to shut down communication via chat and only talk about logistics there.

With regards to paying for mentoring, I would say one thing: whether you pay or not, it doesn't matter, but you do need a mentor. This is exactly what I didn't have when I was young and so I would end in the friendzone on every date I had because I had no clue what to do. And then I read tons of stuff and watched videos and started improving quickly. If you have someone to show you the ropes, things become much easier.
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