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Default 07-07-2014, 11:08 PM

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So you're basically saying that it's impossible to be more attracted to one person than another? That's insane. I'm not saying numbers are the best way to handle it, but it's the shortest way to explain it.
It has never even crossed my mind once to rate myself out of 10 in one girl's eyes in comparison to another, and why would I bother? At the end of the day I just wanna try get ALL of them out in order to fuck them.


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Default 07-07-2014, 11:41 PM

If a girl tells you you're a five you're probably not fucking her right. Put it up her pooper, that'll turn that floppy five into a tight ten.


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Default 08-07-2014, 12:01 AM

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I haven't ignored any of the good advice (though there hasn't been a lot of it)
There's been loads of it, non of which validates your ego so you choose to ignore it. Not once have you demonstrated that you've taken anything on board. My last point stands more solidly.


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It's nothing to do with my ego. Why in God's name would I come to a website, where most people are good with women.. to show off about being good with women?
I don't know, you tell me since that's what your doing.

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I said Adam Lyons because everybody has heard of him, and I happen to think his advice is fairly good...
You brought him up because you thought people had heard of him and that would give you social proof? That's weak.

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I don't care if you "believe me" or not.
Good, you shouldn't.

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"You either feel it or you don't" that is true, you either feel attraction or you don't... but we're talking about HOW MUCH attraction you feel... you're attracted to a 9, but you're also attracted to a 7. If the 9 is the neediest bitch on the planet and a control freak, but the 7 is cool... they soon swap places.
If the 9 is how you describe then I wouldn't be attracted to those qualities anyway, that disqualifies your whole point.

Broadsword broke it down great for you. Attraction is that simple, it really doesn't need the bells and whistles that you make out. It's like this;

I meet a cool girl - I like her.
We spend some time together and get on awesomely - I like her even more.
We spend even more time together and get on more awesomely - God forbid maybe I love her.

If those feelings in any of those situations are reciprocated then there will be mutual attraction. Of course if those feelings don't reciprocate each other at any of those stages the attraction will fade, you will know it and you will know its right to move on. There is no need for a 3 step method of 'flipping the switch', that is beta. Like I said your advice is.

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Not that I think you will, or probably need to (if you're THAT egotistical and stubborn, then you're probably already quite good with women) but you could basically learn the theory about the interest level from Doc Love.
You've accused me of being egotistical and stubborn and attribute those qualities to a supposed success with women. This is why your advice is dangerous.

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Again, my main reason for being here, is feedback (not just "this is shit" but more of "this is shit, you could improve it by doing this...." kind of thing)
You've been told multiple times of how 'this is shit, you could improve it by doing....' and you've chosen to ignore it each and every time.

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Why would I "groom" anybody for coaching, I coach for free, as a hobby.
I never said your motivations are monetary.
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Default 08-07-2014, 06:52 AM

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Phenomenon is right; either your attracted or you are not. Either she is attracted or she isn't.
LOL "Phenomenon" - I really need to sort out he auto complete on my tablet.
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Default 08-07-2014, 07:51 AM

It's obvious from the style of posts and consistency of thanks that these 2 are either the same person or know each other and have some kind of agenda, probably just to troll the forum.


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Default 08-07-2014, 08:20 AM

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LOL "Phenomenon" - I really need to sort out he auto complete on my tablet.
I thought you wrote phenomenon on purpose & it was hilarious


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It's obvious from the style of posts and consistency of thanks that these 2 are either the same person or know each other and have some kind of agenda, probably just to troll the forum.
Dangermouse goldstar point for you!



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Default 08-07-2014, 01:21 PM

I can't be bothered to reply to every single word you said, cause it's too long, and 95% bullshit... but I'm in no way trying to fake social proof or whatever you think it is that I'm trying to do.. in what way is "I'm not trying to be Adam Lyons" doing that? Infact don't answer lol. Also, no, most of the advice has been shit "You're grooming" with no "I don't agree with this point, it makes you look ____ how about instead, you do something like this ____ to get your point across" etc.. just accusations of how I'm apparently trying to act a certain way or do a certain thing. Pretty much the only helpful advice has been from the guy who told me to read the book. He had good points, others are just trying to troll, or throwing around random accusations. I still stand by the point that you can be more attracted to one person than another, but maybe thats just me (and 99% of the planet) who knows. I won't be replying anymore, unless it's to something helpful.
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Default 08-07-2014, 01:23 PM

Oh, 1 more thing, I don't know Hellcat. In what way am I trying to troll? I feel like I'm the only person here who isn't trolling, apart from that guy who suggested I read the book. Maybe Dan too, and a couple of others - a couple of good points have been made, but its been 95% "this is bad." with no advice.
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Default 08-07-2014, 02:50 PM

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I can't be bothered to reply to every single word you said, cause it's too long, and 95% bullshit...
You can't be bothered because your fragile ego can't take any form of opposition to your skewed beliefs on attraction. I reiterate you came here for an ego wank, kudos, pats on the back for your articles and you didn't get one and now everyone else is wrong and your right.

You admonish every piece of advice you've been given barring a book recommendation. You are socially blind. At least you've started to drop the backhanded passive aggressiveness, there's some semblance of progress.

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but I'm in no way trying to fake social proof or whatever you think it is that I'm trying to do.. in what way is "I'm not trying to be Adam Lyons" doing that?
'A negation is as good as an affirmation.' - Sigmund Freud

You brought him up because you believed people had heard of him. You wanted to align yourself with his name and his supposed success in the PUA industry and cash in on his social proof. But you didn't do your research and you didn't find out that someone like Adam Lyons isn't thought of too highly amongst many of the members here. When this became apparent you backtracked.

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Infact don't answer lol.
Truth hurts doesn't it.

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Also, no, most of the advice has been shit "You're grooming" with no "I don't agree with this point, it makes you look ____ how about instead, you do something like this ____ to get your point across" etc.. just accusations of how I'm apparently trying to act a certain way or do a certain thing.
No it hasn't. BroadswordWSJ and markuk gave you sound advice and you ignored it all. You're passive aggressiveness and inability to take any form of criticism speaks volumes about you're character. You want to be babied and mollycoddled.

I notice you're website contains no articles about approaching or dealing with approach anxiety. I bet this is because this area of dating has the potential for the most humiliation and your ego is terrified of humiliation. I bet you rarely even approach women.

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Pretty much the only helpful advice has been from the guy who told me to read the book. He had good points, others are just trying to troll, or throwing around random accusations.
No, people are offering you their thoughts and opinions since you asked for them in the first place. Hellcat is the only troll.

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I still stand by the point that you can be more attracted to one person than another,
Is this because Doc Love tells you to believe that or is it because you have genuinely thought about this and believe it on your own?

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but maybe thats just me (and 99% of the planet) who knows.
And the passive aggressiveness is back.

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I won't be replying anymore, unless it's to something helpful.
Surprise, surprise the baby has spat his dummy out.


However on your advice I did some research on Doc Love like you recommended.

I believe this is him.


Here's an assortment of quotes I've found either from him or in relation to his practices.

Challenge is the most important reason that a woman is attracted to and chooses to stay in a relationship with one man over another

Challenge is defined as "allowing the woman to do the pursuing".

Doc Love's stated interest is to improve relationships between men and women, decrease the nation's divorce rate and gradually quell the 'war between the sexes'. He is highly critical of most self-acclaimed relationship experts who he criticizes as having no understanding of the concept of challenge and why women value it.

That last point is particularly revealing considering what you have written in your posts. You said yourself how you feel better qualified in the realm of relationships than in building attraction and dating. Your resistance to anything other than your already ingrained opinions is explained too.

It's my understanding Doc Love was originally a salesman. This goes a great way to understanding your resistance and skewed beliefs. When you were in a place of vulnerability you were drawn in by the snake oil salesman. Don't beat yourself up about it, progress can be made despite this.

I'm sure your a nice kid. It's just unfortunate the dating advice you have chosen to believe has come from a charlatan.
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