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Default 02-01-2011, 07:09 AM

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I have a special place for Kezia because she was my first.

I read her book first the bible last, most PUA do it the other way round.

I saw the little minx on the cover of her book and yes walked out of my way to pick it up. She knows her marketing

its a good book I would reccomend 9/10.

The problem I have is what makes her good also makes her bad. As stated her marketing is shit hot, and she sells out workshops but I'm a tight arse and paying almost $250 for her two DVDs is too much. They are DVD's for fucks sake, if was going to pay that much I'd expect them hand delivered by Keiza herself nude.

Incidently, if any one has the DVD's they have watched and are looking to sell for sensible DVD's prices I'd be interested even consider C versions if you can mention the C word.
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Default 03-01-2011, 12:03 AM

Hmmm yeah its dated but I can't see some newbie getting there teeth straight into the blueprint and not coming out the other side thinking they want a line to start a convo...

imo canned things are essential for newbies, even if they maybe are technically unnecessary. Some people wont be so open to rsd's philosophy before getting into the community through something more canned and systemic...

I agree with everyone's points here however how many people come to pickup through RSD compared to MM? I would say that RSD is better once your in the community but its not a doorway into it...

P.S. If your gonna learn that MM bullshit I would rather watch her tits while she teaches it than listen to Mystery himself...

For actual usefulness MM<RSD
If you want a total newbie to get involved in the community: The Game>The Blueprint (at first)

My opinions

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Default 03-01-2011, 12:18 AM

My problem with all this is that there are constantly updated "techniques" being posted.

You guys honestly think that attraction is an evolutionarily moderated ability? That it hasn't been the same for more than 10 million years? Come on - people have been picking up fit girls for hundreds of years without these "techniques", what makes you think they're essential to pick-up now?

Kesia and her mates are full of shit. My cousin recently showed me a summary of her teachings and they're an excessively flowered version of Mystery Method. Valuable to the extent of giving abosolute newbies something to work with but valueless to men of real stature - "neg the target", "dhv", "go under the radar" etc.

Get fucked, you'll go alot further being yourself, having a right laugh and not giving a fuck.


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Default 03-01-2011, 11:57 AM

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imo canned things are essential for newbies
The fact is canned things are not essential for newbies. I know guys who have never used canned. Therefore, it is not essential.

Here opinion is null and void, as there is fact.


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Default 03-01-2011, 12:19 PM

We differ on this one K. Allow me to put the following:

For some newbies, the use of limited canned material can be helpful.

Far be it for me to suggest this is a one-size-fits-all solution. And I'm not suggesting a newbie might want to read The Mystery Method cover to cover before even thinking of opening a set. Rather, if I were out and about with a newbie, I would recommend the use of a basic canned opener to simply give them something to say to a girl, which doesn't require thought. The aim is to defeat AA, and to provide the first building block which says 'its ok to go and talk to a girl'.

From there the newbie may wish too, and would be recommended to seek non-canned openers, thus providing a second building block which says 'its ok to go and talk to a girl... And it doesn't actually matter what you say'.


Just get on with it please
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Default 03-01-2011, 12:36 PM

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We differ on this one K. Allow me to put the following:

For some newbies, the use of limited canned material can be helpful.
We don't differ on this, I agree.

It is the use of categoricals / universals that makes me balk.

It is not 'essential' irrespective of what anyone opines. If anything, in my experience, the prevalence of canned has done more harm than good in people's lives.


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Default 03-01-2011, 12:37 PM

Oh and just on the subject of Richard La Ruina and Kesia.

Richard La Ruina is a complete con artist who totally weirds me out. His book is garbage and a waste of paper. He spent time writing a book which essentially involved taking MM and moving some words around. That anyone would refer to his book positively is beyond me.

You know what Kezia's USP is? Its got fuck all to do with good technique or new ideas or sage advice. Kezia Noble's USP is that she's fit.

A fit girl telling you what works with fit girls? Well then, it must be true!


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Default 03-01-2011, 01:02 PM

just out of interenst... what is the issue with earning money from pua, granted i agree they are a load of shit, but people are buyin it, its just business....

if some wally offered me £1000 to take him on a night out an teach him the ways... (granted i would teach him better than most of the above names, and none of the bollocks) but if it meant to teach them the generic PUA tactics...

i would do it...


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Default 03-01-2011, 01:31 PM

If someone knows something is bullshit and adds their own lies to then sets up a business to sell it to people as if it is real, can you not see something wrong in that, Phil?


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Default 03-01-2011, 02:54 PM

The world is full of AFC's so selling easy accessible pussy is like selling Viagra or extend the size of your penis spam emails we’ve all had them. Anything that hits men’s basic needs is big business and PUA industry is only going to get bigger.

Everyone’s trying to making a buck from guys pimping out wingwomen for £20 a pop to PUA charging £1000’s for one-to-ones. This site will be no different maybe they are already planning revenue at some point, who knows, personally I couldn’t care a less. If I have to pay to sign in that’s different but advertisings fine by me. As for PUA showing me field tactics for a price, I'd rather buy a coke and learn myself.

There always has been and always will be people offering seminars on how to change your life, become a millionaire or become a woman magnet and if people want to pay these people then I shake my head in disbelief but whilst there are punters there is always going to be people punting services.

I’m proud of the fact that my only outlay has been books, okay I’ve read quite a few but I hey I like reading books so I don’t consider this cost. I passed on the books I’ve read so someone else benefits. Keiza book got given to a girl I know at work and I reckon every girl on the 5th floors read it.

PUA artists like Keiza in some way know they have the market to themselves and simply making hay while the sun shines.
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