The Rational Male (By Rollo Tomalsi)
 

My coach gave me this book some time ago, but I didn't get to read it.

I must say, I'm not sure what to make of it.

The various chapters are something like

Oneitis
Plate spinning
Hypergamy
How to be an "alpha" male
Women's "love" and how it is conditional rather than absolute (like she can quickly move on from a man faster than a man can from a woman)
How women see regret compared to men
Rules that he follows in regards to women
General stuff about the feminised society which he refers to as "the matrix" which is quite annoying!
How women are more valuable than men, due to the fact that they are breeding machines

It makes for some depressing reading and looks like a man will never truly relate to a woman at all.

But I'm not really sure whether it's right or not?

It's all a bit abstract and strange.

I'm gonna necro this thread and state that I found the Rational Male to be a horribly negative book. One book I'd definitely not recommend for anyone with anxiety issues.

Whenever I've delved into this book, I've felt worse whenever approaching/gaming women, as I subconsciously think about the negative content in it. I've shelved it for now and only plan on returning when I'm happier with my results.

James Tusk commonly recommends the book for beginners of his coaching. This has certain implications for what kind of clients he's looking for (as in, ones which don't have mental issues).

Z

Yeah, I had a flip through it a while back when it came up on here and it's super toxic. Lots of red/black pilled incelish kind of talk, pretty socially Darwinian. Glad I never came across it when I was a beginner.

Watching some of Rollo Tomassi's YouTube videos hasn't helped either - they still feel toxic. I remember seeing one of his clips on Incels, and Rollo was like "yeah I had loads of sex when I was a teenager." He doesn't really understand.

For a beginner, what would you recommend? I started out with some of Tom Torero's material.

Z

Bump this up.

A lot of people talk about Mark Manson's book "Models" for a starter. Read that last year and it's pretty solid.

Honestly, this is something no one wants to hear but the less information you bog yourself down with at the start the better. Without a decent amount of reference experience, you'll have no way of distinguishing good advice from bad, or even interpreting good advice in the proper context. Figure out the minimum you need to start going out a lot, go out a lot, and look for answers to specific things as and when you get stuck

Yeah you're the 2nd person to recommend me "Models" so it's on my list. However I've also been recommended the Mystery Method, and I gather that the books almost completely contradict each other, so this' gonna be hilarious.

I agree with your other point to an extent. Someone I used to wing with spent roughly £1000 on Gabriel Grey's "Surgical Method" programme, which is an enormous font of theory but with basically no coaching at all (other than the odd Skype call).
Has he got better results since starting the programme? Nope, because he evidently is implementing it wrong and needs in-person help from an experienced individual to use the techniques correctly.

“Has he got better results since starting the programme? Nope, because he evidently is implementing it wrong and needs in-person help from an experienced individual to use the techniques correctly.”

Nah. It’s because it doesn’t work.

“i think it's essential reading for all men“

It most definitely is not.


Peace,

kowalski

He married her 2 weeks after meeting her, is that what you meant? Then they divorced 10 years later?

Russian girls are pretty hot IMO, but restraint is a virtue. The woman who I'd ultimately want to have children with (and I guess by extension, marry), I'd want to be with for a while first.

Ah shite sorry to hear that bud. I can see why you rate parts of the Rational Male though as clearly if you're going out there and just "meeting" lots of random girls, then theoretically one will just feel less needy. Certainly I lost interest in women at work when I could just go out on streets etc.

The bullying part makes me curious. I wonder if a lot of guys who get into approaching/PUA/whatever originally were in really low places to begin with. I'd like to think that the ones who pull thru, make the best of teachers.

Z