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Default Dans Nightgame Notebook - 04-08-2013, 01:26 AM

I wanted to start this thread absolutely ages ago, but whatever.

Headed out with 2 other lads. Did a pub/club crawl type thing. About 4/5 venues altogether.

First approach was 2 nice looking chicks who appeared to be in deep conversation. I was apprehensive & to be honest was in the venue for ages before my wing said I'm going in if you aren't away in 6 seconds, so go around & ask them where's good to go around here. We vibe about cool places & going out sober. After 15 minutes they're going so I ask for their numbers but they have boyfriends. Ok have a nice night girls.

Second one, different venue, in fact all the rest are in this one area. It's a cool little couple of back alleys which are packed with people. It seems to be a very good socializing place. I'm standing with my mates taking in the vibe of the place & 2 blondies stand beside us for a smoke. Only one is hot. I tell the hot one she looks like my friend Sarah. We all get into convo about where we're from & start debating about the specific origins of certain towns here & what county they're in. My mate is heading to do his own approach & passes me with the message "stop jumping around bro" (this is the bit where people would usually think I'm on drugs) About 15 minutes pass & they off they go. It's all smiles & everyone is cheerfully saying goodbye etc so I'm thinking to myself "should I ask for a number?"

Next one I'm standing at a kind of junction of the alleys & 4 girls are walking past. The last one is struggling with her handbag & just literally as I was offering to help she says to me can you help me with this? She is slightly drunk. I take the bag & as I'm fixing it I say I bloody hate it when this happens to my handbags it's so annoying. When I fix it she thanks me & is heading on I sort of lightly take her arm & try to keep her with me asking how her night is going but she wants her friends.

I'm at the little junction area still & as I turn around there's this gorgeous blonde who's with her brunette friend. Our eyes meet & she says hello so & I take the few steps towards them & say hey girls how's your night going? I lightly touch them on their backs as I approach them as it just feels right to do so. They're both friendly but I feel the blonde is a really top girl, right up my street. I feel so comfortable & the vibe is so good here that as I'm talking I start mildly moving to rhythm of whatever the guitar guy is playing behind us. We're talking about the world police & fire games that are being held here at the minute. These girls are hosts & blondie asks me if I'm an athlete. I tell her yes I'm a boxer, she then says so you'll be going to the Ulster hall on Monday then? When I say I take it there is boxing there on Monday then? They bust my balls saying haha no way are you a boxer, to which I'm like ok I'm not a bloody pro I'm an amateur, bite me. Then they say ok you should go & find your friends Danny, we have to go find ours, it's been lovely to meet you, & blondie hugs me at the same time as bringing her face close to mine so I can kiss her, so I do........ Looking back on this, I let her go wayyy too easily. Lesson learned.



That interaction put me on a high. In state.


The next interaction was a total fail. I was sitting on a bench with my mate chatting & 2 girls come over & stand in front of us watching the guitar guy. I approach them from behind sort of through the middle saying who is the guitar guy is he local? They don't know but he is doing covers & blah blah blah. They turn around & we're talking about whatever I can't remember, because I stop one & say hey where are you from are you American? She said yeah laughing & I ask what part. She then says no actually I'm from Bangor, with a poker face. I said oh right I thought you sounded American hahaha, trying to pan it off as nothing serious. But they took it serious, too serious. I can't remember what I said next but it went really awkward & I think the girl recognized that I was trying to find a way to salvage this & she says "i dunno", probably in response to question that she knew I was asking myself. Then my mate had seen me suffer enough & called me away. It was funny though, I laughed it off & I was still feeling good from meeting that blonde.

The only other significant thing was as we we're walking down a street this girl said to me "oh cheer up your face looks sad" which perked me back up. I thought I was looking pretty happy before that but it was cool to have a random girl point out something that a wingman would.


So that was that. A decent enough start to what we intend to make a regular thing 3 to 4 nights a week.


I need to talk about cooler things. Or just be in the moment. Asking what the best clubs are is lame & boring & could be classed as canned shit as I've used it lots of times.

What things do you clubbing guys talk about to girls that is cool & not shit?


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Default 04-08-2013, 02:24 AM

There is nothing to talk about. The paradox is that you'll find out what to talk about once you realise there is no particular thing to talk about. Its Freestyle. Anything goes.

Tonight I spoke to a promoter about her brother's girlfriend's cousin's mate who I met that turned out to be her cousin, followed by pretending to spit roast her casually (her idea) then another girl Im teaching to moonwalk and do the 'blood' with where ass-spanks, hugs and touching is the norm.

Two minutes later some girl starts being like "Uh don't spank me", "Alright with the hug there. . .", "Do you have to touch me when you speak?", and she was someone I knew haha!

Fucking everything goes and it also doesn't. I go for the most casual shit I can, joke about, you can sometimes feel like you're not as much 'fun' as others around you but if you went around and listened to everyone else they wouldn't be having anything particularly insane going on either, in general. Its just an illusion due to the accumulated noise from everyone.

So yeah, casual, low key stuff, joke around, make observations about her, get to know her, let her get to know youu!!!!

That's probably the biggest one guys don't get (or at least myself), let them get to know you, your world, what's up with you.

I think a better way to assess if your doing good or bad when it comes to interacting is "Did I feel like I expressed myself honestly and took my best/a good shot?", because as I pointed out there I had three interactions with three girls in the same spot, one after the other and all three were different with two different results; two went great, one went shit. And with knowing the latter better than the other's you'd of thought she'd been the better interaction.

That's it man, be free, pick-up is that; being free and expressing yourself.


Know Thyself.

Have fun.

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Default 04-08-2013, 02:28 AM

Also you could make the argument that 70% of conversation is just so you have a reason to interact with each other, eye contact, touch, escalate etc and not make her feel slutty.

Bout 30% is the genuine getting to know each other and having fun.


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Default 05-08-2013, 04:28 PM

I've had nights of pure random interactions that were epic. Lots of these were in clubs or parties where everyone was full of all kinds of mind altering substances.

But then when you hear about "pickup" it's all "what do I do now what do I do then what do I say how" etc & that becomes your problem.

I get it..... Random conversations about everything & anything & nothing.


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Default 13-08-2013, 01:39 AM

Was out tonight with my mate, who opened 4 sets. I never opened any myself. In fact I wasn't even really in the mood for going out due to reasons discussed on another thread, but I went out regardless.

It wasn't too bad but it wasn't great either as I was not in really good form. The first interaction was fun though & I felt the most comfortable here. As the night wore on I gave less & less of a shit.

The most significant thing about tonight, for me, was that we agreed to start our very own variation of the 30 day/night challenge.

It's like the 30 day challenge, but with 1000 instead of 30.

We've shook on it, & it's a done deal.


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Default 14-08-2013, 12:08 AM

Out tonight mostly just had a laugh with my mate & bounced around a few venues.

Wasn't really in the mood for going out but still did.

Only opened one chick on the street who was coming towards me, I said you're late babe where are we going tonight & put my arm around her waist & try to get her to stop but she's walking on giggling.

The most significant thing about the night was having a dish of water thrown over us from a 4th floor window as we walked down a street.


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Default Night 3 - 15-08-2013, 12:01 AM

On the way home from boxing I was passing the off sales on my street & a girl walked out with a bottle of cold wine in her hand. We were doing that thing where we are walking down the street together like we know each other so I say to her "gimme a sip" & she says fuck off laughing. I tell her she can have a sip of my water it's a fair deal, blah blah no way it isn't. She has a boyfriend cooking a meal for her & this is their second bottle of wine, I tease a bit about romance & shit & wish her a good evening.

First venue we walked in & had a look around for anyone worth talking to. I spotted one of the girls we talked to the other night, it was a set my mate had opened but I opened her this time. She was with a different girl. I sit down & tease her about being an alcoholic because she has been out every night this week. She told us the other night she has a boyfriend but she's very flirty, when she is telling me something she leans away in but that's partly to do with some local rock star blasting out tunes a few feet away. I know it doesn't count as a real open because we already know each other but I have a question me & my mate briefly discussed but didn't come to a conclusion so I'd like some opinions to clear things up: Does the rules of winging say a girl is off limits to you because your wingman opened her on another night?

We were heading uptown next & it's almost pissing down rain. So the rest of the opens are shit.

Girl is walking towards us I say you're late again babe, but she was in a total trance & says holy fuck you scared the shit outta me. So I put my arm around her & tell her I'm sorry I didn't mean to frighten her & she tells me it's ok, sorta giggling. I ask her where she's going, home, so I ask her to come out with me, she says no I'm soaked & pissed off so I'm just going home.

Next one is walking towards us with her mate & has one of them raincoat overalls that you wear at rainy outdoor gigs as they're obviously coming from Kings of Leon. I say to her I love your coat, & she never said a thing. I got nothing because it was a stupid open with a stupid line & it was just fucking stupid.

Passing KFC a girl is leaning against the window playing with her phone. I stop in front of her & say sorry I'm late hope I didn't keep you waiting long. She looks back down at her phone & says nothing. I put my hand around her & tell her I'm only joking. I think her fella was standing a few feet away.





I need to stop saying "sorry I'm late" or "you're late again" all the time. Basically comedic openers. I mean, I can use it sometimes yes when I feel it will work but I shouldn't have it as literally my default opener. There's nowhere to really go from it, yes it gets laughs but then they are walking on & I'm saying something to try & keep them there like asking where are we going tonight babe.



Another thing, the second place we went to there was no-one to open, but when I say there was no-one to open I'm not strictly telling the truth, there were 2 tables one had 4 girls & the other had 5. There was a couple of good looking girls at each table & I wanted to open but the amount of girls put me off. How would one open, then keep conversation going with so many girls? Obviously I could have used something from The Game but obviously I don't want to, so what's the alternative? And that's not to mention butting in on them when they are all having a girlie natter about whatever.


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Default 15-08-2013, 10:03 AM

What about a girl your wing opened on another night? Is she "his"?

And how would you open the groups of 5 girls chatting?


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Default 15-08-2013, 10:50 AM

Only while in set, in which he opened, does he have first choice of the girls, and that's only if he's going for it. If he's in limbo, being an asshole or not doing anything about it (and he has the ability to do so) then you can move in.


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Default 15-08-2013, 11:04 AM

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Create a spotlight on yourself.
For the group, grab a chair and drag it across the bar to the table. Put it down, adjust it. Sit down, take a moment to get comfortable, adjust your trouser leg (that sort of thing). All of this should be slow, calm and deliberate.

Then speak.

You will have everyone's attention. They will all want to be involved.

When I was on business trips and out drinking alone at night I always wanted to get in with a fun looking group who knew the city. This is how I used to do it.
Fucking awesome.

I can see how this would be really fucking effective, & I can't wait to do it.


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