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Default 29-07-2014, 10:32 PM

I like this new Mark - going after what you want. Your time will come


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Default 29-07-2014, 11:42 PM

I would just say that I believe you can offend a woman, even a prostitute, by being too explicit.

I believe what you want to do is screen but not offend. Did you want to piss her off because you were angry at her?

She's indicated that you crossed the line. Unless it's two-way sexting I wouldn't screen like this. I want to screen more in person using touch. I think this could be a better way. If she's not interested in a sexual relationship developing she'll simply leave the interaction.


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Default 29-07-2014, 11:53 PM

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If she's not interested in a sexual relationship developing she'll simply leave the interaction.
In that case, then don't worry about being explicit.


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Default 30-07-2014, 12:13 AM

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In that case, then don't worry about being explicit.
She can leave the interaction. She has her dignity intact. You've maybe got a temporary dent in your ego from the rejection but the more you do it the less that will bother you. Offending her is not good because not only do you hurt her dignity you demean yourself as a man.

We want to be better men right?


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Default 30-07-2014, 12:21 AM

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I would just say that I believe you can offend a woman, even a prostitute, by being too explicit.

I believe what you want to do is screen but not offend. Did you want to piss her off because you were angry at her?

She's indicated that you crossed the line. Unless it's two-way sexting I wouldn't screen like this.
Hmm. You may wish to re-read what you have written. Mark wanted to see if she was DTF, cut straight to the point, she wasn't, NEXT. Saves time for both parties.


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Default 30-07-2014, 12:24 AM

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Offending her is not good because not only do you hurt her dignity you demean yourself as a man.

We want to be better men right?
Yep, and better men are honest in their intentions.


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Default 30-07-2014, 05:36 AM

I have a dirty mind. My challenge is social anxiety, at the heart of this, is over-investing in what others think of you.
For example, 'I'm not going to talk to that pretty girl because she might not like me'.
That is something I an overcoming by 'approaching women'.

On the other hand I have always felt in-tune with people and felt able to empathise.
I really do love psychology and people in general I find fascinating.

To answer Serendipity's question, no I didn't feel anger towards her. I don't remember the last time I felt real anger towards anyone.
I felt horny looking at her photos. The last message to her was 100% my true intentions. I didn't want to go for a coffee or hold her hand.

Something Mark Mason said which I agree with is you can offend people for being yourself. That's just life. If you're not offending
someone you're probably over invested in what others think of you.
This is not being an 'arse hole', this is just being myself. I've not had enough sex in my life and it's something I want more of.

I also have no shame about this. You might notice when we're out I don't ever change the subject of women or the volume of my voice based on who is around me.
Sometimes I feel like I should but I am aware of this and remember what I am saying is authentic.

This is also something I do at work now, I often chat with some of the guys I work with about the new women I'm meeting, it's not an ego thing (maybe a little) I
don't want two worlds (a hidden PUA one) and another one (shameful of demonstrating my intentions).

A couple of years ago, I wasn't meeting enough women. I went onto a online site and spent hours, messaging girls (as you do with online).
I was explicit and a couple of the girls fucking loved it and we met up.

Now I'm meeting girls easily in real life I do believe it's a just a matter of time and I want to do real screening.


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Default 30-07-2014, 06:22 AM

All I'm saying is why not be be honest in our intentions from the get go? If you express yourself physically and she walks because she's not down we don't have to go through the charade of texting convos and dates that go nowhere.

Another advantage is it would get us used to physical escalation. If you can do it in broad daylight in the street it would seem much easier in a bar or club environment at night.

We both want to get laid. What I'm suggesting is screening for that specifically instead of playing along with girls to get some short-lived validation. We want something to happen either the same day / night or soon after.

I think we're moving in that direction anyway through experience and we'll get what we want if we keep pushing the comfort zone by taking risks.


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Default 30-07-2014, 06:57 AM

Your last post makes a lot of sense.

Yes I agree after first meeting a girl I should try and show my intentions quicker. The faster we screen the faster we get what we want. Being more physically is something you and I can definitely improve on.


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Default 30-07-2014, 10:04 AM

A girl will find you creepy if they are not attracted to you, regardless of what you do.

If you're nice and ask something which is tame, they'd look like a bitch if they didn't answer you.

Mark's method, helps both sides. It helps him find out if she's attracted and down to fuck. For her it shows his honest intentions, so she can decide if she wants to do xyz.


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